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- Wed Feb 17, 2016 8:58 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Kapyong's Jesus Myth Theory
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Re: Kapyong's Jesus Myth Theory
I think Marcion is more likely than not to have been a real person based on all the data I agree, but that makes your position on the question of the value of Justin Martyr's reference harder to understand. OK. Let's back up a bit. On the basis of you saying - ... Justin Martyr said that Marcion wa...
- Wed Feb 17, 2016 8:24 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Kapyong's Jesus Myth Theory
- Replies: 49
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Re: Kapyong's Jesus Myth Theory
I think Marcion is more likely than not to have been a real person based on all the data; but I have concerns about Ignatius (or, at least, Ignatius being an early 2nd century entity) and Irenaeus. I think one ought to address all these texts with an open mind, and consider where most knowledge of t...
- Wed Feb 17, 2016 8:16 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Kapyong's Jesus Myth Theory
- Replies: 49
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Re: Kapyong's Jesus Myth Theory
So this hypothesis depends on an additional hypothesis that the Apologies of Justin were not written by a historical Justin Martyr to his contemporaries? No. I am not proposing an ahistorical Justin or that the 'Apologies' of Justin were not written by him. If not, then in what sense would Justin w...
- Wed Feb 17, 2016 6:41 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Kapyong's Jesus Myth Theory
- Replies: 49
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Re: Kapyong's Jesus Myth Theory
Irenaeus tells us that Justin Martyr wrote a work against Marcion, which is now lost. Some authentic materials are preserved in the fragments of Justin quoted by other writers, although some of these fragments may be suspect. http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/justin.html What Jusitin Martyr wro...
- Wed Feb 17, 2016 3:59 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Kapyong's Jesus Myth Theory
- Replies: 49
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Re: Kapyong's Jesus Myth Theory
Furthermore, Ienaeus could also be a rhetorical device.
- Wed Feb 17, 2016 3:01 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Kapyong's Jesus Myth Theory
- Replies: 49
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Re: Kapyong's Jesus Myth Theory
Irenaeus tells us that Justin Martyr wrote a work against Marcion, which is now lost. Some authentic materials are preserved in the fragments of Justin quoted by other writers, although some of these fragments may be suspect. http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/justin.html What Jusitin Martyr wro...
- Wed Feb 17, 2016 2:25 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Kapyong's Jesus Myth Theory
- Replies: 49
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Re: Kapyong's Jesus Myth Theory
Marcion wants to know how a perfect and loving god could be compatible with an imperfect and uncaring world. One model says that god makes the bad and the good things that exist in this world. Another model says that god makes the good things and satan is responsible for the bad things. Marcion cal...
- Wed Feb 17, 2016 12:46 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Kapyong's Jesus Myth Theory
- Replies: 49
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Re: Kapyong's Jesus Myth Theory
Marcion never was; it is only an invented phantom. Marcion Was a Heretic Invented in the Third Century to Gloss Over the Controversies Associated with St Mark in Second Century Palestine http://stephanhuller.blogspot.co.uk/2011/08/marcion-was-heretic-invented-in-third.html That seems to be a reason...
- Sun Feb 14, 2016 10:58 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Apelles and the gospel of John.
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Re: Apelles and the gospel of John.
Acts 18 (ESV) 25 " ...being fervent in [the] spirit, he [Apollos] spoke and taught accurately the things concerning Jesus, *though he knew only the baptism of John*. 26 He began to speak boldly in the synagogue, but when Priscilla and Aquila heard him , they took him aside and explained to him ...
- Sun Feb 14, 2016 5:02 pm
- Forum: General Religious Discussion
- Topic: Kanye Devotes/Entitles His Latest Album For Paul the Apostle
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Re: Kanye Devotes/Entitles His Latest Album For Paul the Apo
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