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by John T
Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:37 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Carrier v. Litwa: What Did the “Ascension of Isaiah” Originally Say?
Replies: 103
Views: 7707

Re: Carrier v. Litwa: What Did the “Ascension of Isaiah” Originally Say?

the AI might also be seen as another response, in part, to Marcionism, as Markus Vinzent has suggested. Surely the arguments supportive of the Vinzent's position are cogent: As in Marcion, the coming into the world happens unexpectedly (Mary is astonished), as in the blink of an eye, without birth ...
by John T
Fri Oct 21, 2022 11:17 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Carrier v. Litwa: What Did the “Ascension of Isaiah” Originally Say?
Replies: 103
Views: 7707

Re: Carrier v. Litwa: What Did the “Ascension of Isaiah” Originally Say?

Carrier thinks it proves his crack pot theory... No, Carrier does not hold AoI "proves"—ahistoricity is more probable—then historicity, rather it alters the balance by ~10%. I only assign the effect of the Ascension a Bayes’ factor of 4/5 against historicity in my a fortiori column (and e...
by John T
Fri Oct 21, 2022 10:44 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Proofs That Jesus Existed
Replies: 422
Views: 430692

Re: Proofs That Jesus Existed

John T wrote: Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:35 am Argument from hate

1. Ashiests hate Jesus.
2. You can't hate something that doesn't exist.
3. Therefore, Jesus exists.
An oldie but goodie from the flip side of the coin to show that both sides can engage in satire. :cheers:
by John T
Fri Oct 21, 2022 10:35 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Carrier v. Litwa: What Did the “Ascension of Isaiah” Originally Say?
Replies: 103
Views: 7707

Re: Carrier v. Litwa: What Did the “Ascension of Isaiah” Originally Say?

I watched a bit of Neal Sendliak's take down of Carrier on YouTube. No wonder Richard doesn't want you to watch it or if you do, you better dismiss everything Neal says as some kind of kook. It's not just that Neal exposes one lie after another that Carrier tells. But I think this is what bothers Ca...
by John T
Fri Oct 21, 2022 8:54 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Carrier v. Litwa: What Did the “Ascension of Isaiah” Originally Say?
Replies: 103
Views: 7707

Re: Carrier v. Litwa: What Did the “Ascension of Isaiah” Originally Say?

to give it any credence just because Carrier thinks it proves his crack pot theory is to admit you are easily fooled by narcissistic cranks. :facepalm: about narcissistic cranks, so Carrier describes one of them: Yeah. That’s Neal Sendliak. As you can tell from watching that after reading this arti...
by John T
Fri Oct 21, 2022 7:20 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Carrier v. Litwa: What Did the “Ascension of Isaiah” Originally Say?
Replies: 103
Views: 7707

Re: Carrier v. Litwa: What Did the “Ascension of Isaiah” Originally Say?

Question: Who are the scholars that hold the viewpoint that the "pocket gospel story" is suspicious? Suspicious of what? 1. That it is the work of a docetic cult? 2. That it dates to the time of Ignatius of Antioch who was martyred in Rome 107 CE? 3. That it was written by more than one a...
by John T
Thu Oct 20, 2022 5:10 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: So Let's Be Real - the Sinai Palimpsest Project Turns Out to Be a Big Waste of Time
Replies: 23
Views: 6371

Re: the Sinai Palimpsest Project Turns Out to Be a Big Waste of Time

Unsurprisingly, this thread failed to meet expectations, but the back-n-forth was entertaining. Perhaps you can fix it while being entertaining? It is easy to criticize the performer from the peanut gallery but much harder to take the stage and do better. Don't be shy, look at it as a drunken night...
by John T
Thu Oct 20, 2022 3:21 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Carrier v. Litwa: What Did the “Ascension of Isaiah” Originally Say?
Replies: 103
Views: 7707

Re: Carrier v. Litwa: What Did the “Ascension of Isaiah” Originally Say?

Which is easier, getting Carrier's crackpot idea posted on the Babylon Bee or Wikipedia? :cheers:
by John T
Thu Oct 20, 2022 3:17 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Mark used *Ev
Replies: 109
Views: 6242

Re: Mark used *Ev

The story of Jesus was first told in verbal form, from eye witnesses. Likely, the first written accounts were reports from scribes/pharisees to the Sanhedrin and Herod. The sayings of Jesus. As the story of Jesus later spread around the Mediterranean, it had to be translated to the people of differ...