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by Peter Kirby
Tue Aug 11, 2015 2:30 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The genre of the gospels.
Replies: 165
Views: 100326

Re: The genre of the gospels.

SURE TO BE OVER THE HEADS OF 90% HERE https://books.google.ca/books?id=e5iW24esf-sC&pg=PA507&lpg=PA507&dq=samaritan+antiphonal&source=bl&ots=PVBeXvvt-V&sig=m2fKVPPgxo93qpCxH36Hsv43ee4&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CBsQ6AEwAGoVChMI8fSJqf-exwIViNWACh3uWgmz#v=onepage&q=samari...
by Peter Kirby
Tue Aug 11, 2015 2:27 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Was Paul the First to Assert that Jesus was Crucified?
Replies: 80
Views: 74292

Re: Was Paul the First to Assert that Jesus was Crucified?

Diogenes the Cynic wrote:Good point. I forgot about that one. Probably from a later layer, though.
Maybe, but... if "Q" were not a separate, actual document and if the Gospel of Thomas were a second century text dependent on previous gospels, there'd be little reason to assume that.
by Peter Kirby
Mon Aug 10, 2015 5:16 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Christ Myth vs Retrospective Historicity
Replies: 16
Views: 12199

Re: Christ Myth vs Retrospective Historicity

Melito of Sardis - died c.177 - From the apology addressed to Marcus Aurelius Antoninus "For the philosophy current with us flourished in the first instance among barbarians; and, when it afterwards sprang up among the nations under thy rule, during the distinguished reign of thy ancestor Augu...
by Peter Kirby
Sun Aug 09, 2015 10:33 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Christ Myth vs Retrospective Historicity
Replies: 16
Views: 12199

Re: Christ Myth vs Retrospective Historicity

Melito of Sardis - died c.177 - From the apology addressed to Marcus Aurelius Antoninus "For the philosophy current with us flourished in the first instance among barbarians; and, when it afterwards sprang up among the nations under thy rule, during the distinguished reign of thy ancestor Augu...
by Peter Kirby
Sun Aug 09, 2015 2:07 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Christ Myth vs Retrospective Historicity
Replies: 16
Views: 12199

Re: Christ Myth vs Retrospective Historicity

If Jesus Christ is a myth, what is the motivation to attempt to place him, so early, into an historical setting with a fixed time period? If the earliest extant gospel artifacts are from the mid-2nd century, then the originals are some time earlier, placing the act of "retrospective historicit...
by Peter Kirby
Sun Aug 09, 2015 2:00 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: My review of Richard Carrier's "On the Historicity of Jesus"
Replies: 139
Views: 106584

Re: My review of Richard Carrier's "On the Historicity of Je

I would generally agree, although it may make a difference when presenting a definition to a lay audience. I haven't read his book so I don't know how he presents it there, but I've seen a couple of his presentations on youtube, and in those, he presents Euhemerization as something that sounds as t...
by Peter Kirby
Fri Aug 07, 2015 7:20 am
Forum: Classical Texts and History
Topic: Crucifixion of slaves by masters.
Replies: 7
Views: 17003

Re: Crucifixion of slaves by masters.

a general lack of any slaves over age 30 in surviving tax rolls from Roman era Egypt. 100% manumission of slaves who live to 30? That's about as hard to fathom as the opposite, that no slave lived to be 30. Incidentally -- could this be an attempt to strive after status? https://en.wikipedia.org/wi...
by Peter Kirby
Fri Aug 07, 2015 6:52 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Luke's remains
Replies: 40
Views: 29562

Re: Luke's remains

... first century human remains ... Actually, that's inaccurate too. Turns out that it was naive to accept the Telegraph's reporting without checking any other sources. The Telegraph's phrasing: "someone who died between AD72 and 416BC." However, every other source that I can find that is...
by Peter Kirby
Thu Aug 06, 2015 10:45 pm
Forum: Classical Texts and History
Topic: Proof of something or another
Replies: 4
Views: 11020

Re: Proof of something or another

Κύνες πρὸς ἔμετον indeed!
+1 would read with incomprehension again
by Peter Kirby
Thu Aug 06, 2015 1:38 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: On the fabricated mythicist "Pauli"...
Replies: 7
Views: 5381

Re: On the fabricated mythicist "Pauli"...

Disclaimer: I don't claim to know what Giuseppe is actually saying. So take it as a general comment. "Traditionally," Bruno Bauer and the Dutch Radical school held that the Pauline Epistles were written in the full light of knowledge of the Gospel tale. Combining the second-century Paul o...