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by Giuseppe
Tue Oct 20, 2020 8:26 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Late dating of Mark: How far would you go? And what are your arguments?
Replies: 90
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Re: Late dating of Mark: How far would you go? And what are your arguments?

The Parable of Tenants: He will come and kill those tenants and give the vineyard to others . (Mark 12:9) Jerusalem was not given "to others" after 70 but only after 135: it became Aelia Capitolina and populated exclusively by Pagans. In addition: Nation will rise against nation, and kingd...
by Giuseppe
Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:39 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Incredible: a modern scholar has arrived independently to my same conclusion!!!
Replies: 10
Views: 18449

Re: Incredible: a modern scholar has arrived independently to my same conclusion!!!

Note that Painchaud assumes that the tractat On the origin of the world betrayes knowledge of the Gospels and alludes secretly to Gospel trial before Pilate, but he ignores two alternative possibilities: That the tractat On the origin of the world ignores completely any Gospel That the primitive tex...
by Giuseppe
Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:51 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Incredible: a modern scholar has arrived independently to my same conclusion!!!
Replies: 10
Views: 18449

Re: Incredible: a modern scholar has arrived independently to my same conclusion!!!

I should read surely this book: L'écrit sans titre: Traité sur l'origine du monde (NH II,5 et XIII,2 et Brit. Lib. Or. 4926[1]) of Louis Painchaud . The fifth document of codex II, which has come down to use without a title, is a veritable didactictreatise on the origin of the world. It seems intend...
by Giuseppe
Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:17 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Incredible: a modern scholar has arrived independently to my same conclusion!!!
Replies: 10
Views: 18449

Re: Incredible: a modern scholar has arrived independently to my same conclusion!!!

And their heavens will fall one upon the next and their forces will be consumed by fire. Their eternal realms, too, will be overturned. And his heaven will fall and break in two. His [...] will fall down upon the [...] support them; they will fall into the abyss, and the abyss will be overturned. h...
by Giuseppe
Mon Oct 19, 2020 8:15 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Incredible: a modern scholar has arrived independently to my same conclusion!!!
Replies: 10
Views: 18449

Re: Incredible: a modern scholar has arrived independently to my same conclusion!!!

But what has soundly galvanized me is this Pinchaud's quote: 115,23 «ils le glorifièrent (§§§§§§§): d'après H.-G. Bethge, il est inconcevable que les puissances inférieures glorifient celui qui leur a fait cette réponse. Aussi suppose-t-il une corruption du texte qui aurait fait disparaître une int...
by Giuseppe
Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:58 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Incredible: a modern scholar has arrived independently to my same conclusion!!!
Replies: 10
Views: 18449

Re: Incredible: a modern scholar has arrived independently to my same conclusion!!!

I have found online the book of Pinchaud, https://books.google.it/books?redir_esc=y&hl=it&id=laobV7O1J4wC&q=pilate#v=onepage&q=arrestation&f=false ....and I am going to find a serie of interesting things. For example, the passage where it is said: Then, when the seven rulers came...
by Giuseppe
Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:29 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Incredible: a modern scholar has arrived independently to my same conclusion!!!
Replies: 10
Views: 18449

Re: Incredible: a modern scholar has arrived independently to my same conclusion!!!

Then, when the seven rulers came, they saw him and were greatly disturbed. They went up to him and seized him. And he (viz., the chief ruler) said to the breath within him, "Who are you? And whence did you come hither?" It answered and said, "I have come from the force of the man for...
by Giuseppe
Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:24 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Incredible: a modern scholar has arrived independently to my same conclusion!!!
Replies: 10
Views: 18449

Incredible: a modern scholar has arrived independently to my same conclusion!!!

I was going to quote from this book: Paradise Reconsidered in Gnostic Mythmaking: Rethinking Sethianism in Light of the Ophite Evidence by Tuomas Rasimus Searching for "Pilate" in a book where the principal argument were Archontic Gate-Keepers , I have a great surprise: For example, the ch...
by Giuseppe
Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:18 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Hippolytus: the ascent of the souls to heaven is "an emblem of the passion of Christ"
Replies: 1
Views: 4304

Re: Hippolytus: the ascent of the souls to heaven is "an emblem of the passion of Christ"

Around the same time as Irenaeus (ca. 180 CE), a pagan opponent of Christianity, Celsus, composed a treatise called True Doctrine, which, however, only survives through Origen’s refutation of it in his Contra Celsum. Among other things, Celsus described and ridiculed a “Christian” diagram, a drawin...
by Giuseppe
Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:02 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Hippolytus: the ascent of the souls to heaven is "an emblem of the passion of Christ"
Replies: 1
Views: 4304

Hippolytus: the ascent of the souls to heaven is "an emblem of the passion of Christ"

59. But we who hope for the Son of God are persecuted and trodden down by those unbelievers. For the wings of the vessels are the churches; and the sea is the world, in which the Church is set, like a ship tossed in the deep, but not destroyed; for she has with her the skilled Pilot, Christ. And sh...