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by Robert Tulip
Fri Mar 06, 2015 5:11 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: in defence of astrotheology
Replies: 432
Views: 353957

Re: in defence of astrotheology

Robert, you call it "meaningful", but what does it actually mean??? Can you explain what Rev is saying there, through the lens of astrotheology? Why is there an image of the zodiac inside a city that has descended from heaven? What is that image doing there? What does it mean ? Thank you ...
by Robert Tulip
Thu Mar 05, 2015 1:53 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: in defence of astrotheology
Replies: 432
Views: 353957

Re: in defence of astrotheology

Romeo: - in Act 2, Scene 2 But soft! What light through yonder window breaks? It is the east, and Juliet is the sun. Arise, fair sun, and kill the envious moon, Who is already sick and pale with grief, That thou, her maid, art far more fair than she. Similarly, the author of Romeo and Juliet is pro...
by Robert Tulip
Wed Mar 04, 2015 9:31 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: in defence of astrotheology
Replies: 432
Views: 353957

Re: in defence of astrotheology

The comments of some contributors to this thread are amusing, with their oblivity towards facts. Investigation of how the ancients discussed precession of the equinox is not comparable to young earth creationism, scientology, Lemuria or breathairianism, despite some of the more lurid suggestions in ...
by Robert Tulip
Wed Mar 04, 2015 6:17 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: in defence of astrotheology
Replies: 432
Views: 353957

Re: in defence of astrotheology

I do still very much want to respond to Peter Kirby’s question about Shakespeare’s comparison of Juliet to the sun, but first…. I can accept that precession fits in to this. Not too sure about Christian end times. I think that you stated that your ideas about Jesus and the Bible and the Holy Christi...
by Robert Tulip
Tue Mar 03, 2015 7:06 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: in defence of astrotheology
Replies: 432
Views: 353957

Re: in defence of astrotheology

The big mystery here is how it could be possible that this precessional material is abundant, coherent and hidden. My view on how that came to be is that this ‘as above so below’ source code was only understood by a small number of people. Its flagrant conflict with the literal story of the Historic...
by Robert Tulip
Tue Mar 03, 2015 6:01 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: in defence of astrotheology
Replies: 432
Views: 353957

Re: in defence of astrotheology

I have been studying precessional cosmology for a long time. About ten years ago, I wrote this essay on The Twelve Jewels , which is a key precessional motif. Since then my understanding has developed further, for example in recognition that Jesus Christ Himself is a fictional character rather than ...
by Robert Tulip
Tue Mar 03, 2015 12:56 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: in defence of astrotheology
Replies: 432
Views: 353957

Re: in defence of astrotheology

The great stumbling block for believers and foolishness for scientists here is that the myth of Christ crucified in the heavens is based on direct and simple visual observation of the sun and the sky. The great stumbling block I see here is to prove whether anyone anywhere in the ancient world beli...
by Robert Tulip
Mon Mar 02, 2015 2:45 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: in defence of astrotheology
Replies: 432
Views: 353957

Re: in defence of astrotheology

The big question is how did the Jesus Story fit in to this already extant pagan environment of "theology founded on astronomy". This is the central question which should be the focus. I am sorry for following the distraction about Christmas, and for my error in reading Pliny, which Ulan h...
by Robert Tulip
Sun Mar 01, 2015 5:32 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: in defence of astrotheology
Replies: 432
Views: 353957

Re: in defence of astrotheology

...learn to read... you have absolutely no idea of calendars, astronomy or the whole topic, wow, what a reaction! My main point regarding Pliny was his apparent error about the degree of the signs, which you have not sought to address. I'm sorry my reaction on your 25 December claim was too quick, ...
by Robert Tulip
Sun Mar 01, 2015 3:43 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: in defence of astrotheology
Replies: 432
Views: 353957

Re: in defence of astrotheology

Self-pitying sermonizing No, you misread my comment Neil. I do not engage in self-pity, I simply point out where mockery of my views is stupid and ignorant. There is no reason whatever, given all we know about mythology and language, to assume that meanings necessarily (or even plausibly) last thro...