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- Mon Apr 22, 2024 8:21 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Equal Opportunity Offender: The Authenticity Side Misrepresentation
- Replies: 33
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Re: Equal Opportunity Offender: The Authenticity Side Misrepresentation
This is how the academic discussion of the authenticity or forgery SHOULD be conducted. With all participants seeking after the truth rather than cheap and ultimately meaningless victories.
- Mon Apr 22, 2024 8:20 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Equal Opportunity Offender: The Authenticity Side Misrepresentation
- Replies: 33
- Views: 507
- Mon Apr 22, 2024 8:17 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Equal Opportunity Offender: The Authenticity Side Misrepresentation
- Replies: 33
- Views: 507
Re: Equal Opportunity Offender: The Authenticity Side Misrepresentation
And I am not sure that my reading is correct. Smith and Landau might have gotten a better copy of the certificate from the Patriarchate and made sense of the first letter of the word I rendered as αμφισβητούμενη. It doesn't look like an alpha, even the accents are wrong (notice in the original certi...
- Mon Apr 22, 2024 8:15 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Equal Opportunity Offender: The Authenticity Side Misrepresentation
- Replies: 33
- Views: 507
Re: Equal Opportunity Offender: The Authenticity Side Misrepresentation
I don't see you don't recognize the nobility and honesty in disagreeing with Smith and Landau's misrepresentation of what the certificate says. I did this voluntarily as part of the search for truth. The "dispute" is clearly in Kallistos's mind related to the question of whether it is by C...
- Mon Apr 22, 2024 8:05 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Equal Opportunity Offender: The Authenticity Side Misrepresentation
- Replies: 33
- Views: 507
Re: Equal Opportunity Offender: The Authenticity Side Misrepresentation
I am only bringing Kallistos's meaning in 1976 in line with his stated opinion in 1983 to Quesnell. Even for this honesty I am not given credit. You've never done anything close to this. June 1, 1983: Librarian (Charistos [in Greek letters]) says come back Monday from 8:30 to 11:30 am see the ms. So...
- Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:48 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Equal Opportunity Offender: The Authenticity Side Misrepresentation
- Replies: 33
- Views: 507
Re: Equal Opportunity Offender: The Authenticity Side Misrepresentation
The Greek word here is likely αμφισβητούμενη "disputed" which implies a dispute.
- Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:45 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Equal Opportunity Offender: The Authenticity Side Misrepresentation
- Replies: 33
- Views: 507
Re: Equal Opportunity Offender: The Authenticity Side Misrepresentation
The real question in this letter (and the reason why perhaps Tselikas didn't translate it) is that Kallistos here with his "disputed as far as concerning its authenticity" is pointing to the same source as his statements to Quesnell in 1983. There must have been a discussion of this text i...
- Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:39 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Marcion’s Gospel and the New Testament: Catalyst or Consequence?
- Replies: 33
- Views: 652
Re: Marcion’s Gospel and the New Testament: Catalyst or Consequence?
The Orthodox set a discussion by saying the Marcionites falsified a gospel called according to Luke under the pretext that Paul had a beloved disciple named Luke whom he asked to write the gospel which Paul himself referred to as "my gospel." There is no evidence for a gospel of Luke until...
- Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:32 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Marcion’s Gospel and the New Testament: Catalyst or Consequence?
- Replies: 33
- Views: 652
Re: Marcion’s Gospel and the New Testament: Catalyst or Consequence?
Why do we pretend that this forum isn't a mirror of the world in which the canon was created? Human behavior is consistent over time. We're all selfish assholes. Our forefathers were selfish assholes. Survival in the hostile world demands that only selfish assholes survive. The idea that Marcionites...
- Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:27 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Marcion’s Gospel and the New Testament: Catalyst or Consequence?
- Replies: 33
- Views: 652
Re: Marcion’s Gospel and the New Testament: Catalyst or Consequence?
The cleverest thing that the editor of our canon did was to shift focus from "which is the gospel of Paul" = the Marcionite understanding to "which is the real gospel of Luke." Can we stop talking about the gospel of Luke? The Marcionites knew THE apostle who wrote the letters al...