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by GakuseiDon
Sat Oct 23, 2021 1:05 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: A subtle way to defame Carrier by Litwa
Replies: 24
Views: 3387

Re: A subtle way to defame Carrier by Litwa

I found a page on Litwa's book on his website: https://mdavidlitwa.wordpress.com/ The bolded part is where I guess Litwa touches on Dr Carrier's views. "The Evil Creator God: origins of an early Christian idea" Summary. This book examines the origins of the evil creator idea chiefly in lig...
by GakuseiDon
Sat Oct 23, 2021 12:56 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: A subtle way to defame Carrier by Litwa
Replies: 24
Views: 3387

Re: A subtle way to defame Carrier by Litwa

Why just Carrier? Why not Dawkins? At any case, even if he had named Dawkins and not Carrier, it is still a subtle insult. Why is it an "insult", though? In a book about people who consider the OT God being an evil Creator God, Dr Carrier's views seem to be applicable. In the following ar...
by GakuseiDon
Fri Oct 22, 2021 2:46 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: A subtle way to defame Carrier by Litwa
Replies: 24
Views: 3387

Re: A subtle way to defame Carrier by Litwa

The basic assumption is that "smart" people would not raise the same marcionite criticism against the biblical god. That doesn't seem to be the implication, based on those short extracts from the book. The implication is that someone can read the Old Testament and come up with their own i...
by GakuseiDon
Thu Oct 21, 2021 7:16 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Revelation of the Mystery Hidden for Ages
Replies: 22
Views: 6288

Re: The Revelation of the Mystery Hidden for Ages

In 1 Corinthians 15, Paul does claim that the death and resurrection of Christ was “according to the scriptures.” Who knows what that means. Whatever it means, Paul is claiming he found something in the scriptures relevant to Christ. Another example: Rom 9:30 What shall we say then? That Gentiles, ...
by GakuseiDon
Thu Oct 21, 2021 4:26 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Revelation of the Mystery Hidden for Ages
Replies: 22
Views: 6288

Re: The Revelation of the Mystery Hidden for Ages

The mystery cannot be hidden for long ages and only now revealed, on the one hand, but also witnessed in the centuries-old writings of the Hebrew prophets. Doesn't Paul claim Christ was foretold in scriptures, though? For example: 1 Cor 15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also r...
by GakuseiDon
Thu Oct 21, 2021 12:17 am
Forum: General Religious Discussion
Topic: Lack of Divine Foresight
Replies: 17
Views: 8662

Re: Lack of Divine Foresight

How do we account for God not knowing that Adam and Eve would sin in the Garden? Either he didn't know or he wanted them to sin. Otherwise couldn't he have come up with a plan which prevented the Fall? Hard to get around the libertine reading of Genesis i.e. sinning was necessary. Or do we accept t...
by GakuseiDon
Mon Oct 18, 2021 8:19 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: More info on Jesus' "miraculous (Egyptian) powers" ?
Replies: 6
Views: 3659

Re: More info on Jesus' "miraculous (Egyptian) powers" ?

billd89 wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 4:31 pmI am curious when Jesus' EGYPTIAN (HEALING) POWERS motif first developed. Something is missing, however. The Egyptian Church would have played that up, no?
Was it something created by Christianity's enemies or friends? If by enemies, then that would be a reason to not playing up that side.
by GakuseiDon
Mon Oct 18, 2021 12:46 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Why did the Gnostics use Paul and Gospels?
Replies: 60
Views: 19719

Re: Why did the Gnostics use Paul and Gospels?

It seems that even Marcion's Gospel and Marcion's version of the Pauline letters still deal with the Jewish scriptures and still present a Jesus who is at least tangentially tied to Judaism. Given the teachings of the Gnostics, why did they deal with these materials at all? How did the canon that M...
by GakuseiDon
Fri Oct 15, 2021 5:40 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Why did the Gnostics use Paul and Gospels?
Replies: 60
Views: 19719

Re: Why did the Gnostics use Paul and Gospels?

I have my own crazy theory of Christian origins, which is my "magic heavenly Jesus" theory. As soon as Jesus was thought to be in heaven AND COULD BE SUCCESSFULLY INVOKED for magical healings and prophecies, various groups started doing just that. These were both Jewish and pagan groups, w...
by GakuseiDon
Wed Oct 13, 2021 10:56 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Chrestiani before Christiani
Replies: 5
Views: 1584

Re: Yes.

I'm sold. I recall there have been a few threads on this? I posted a Reply . In later time, when Christianity had finally triumphed, the spelling χρηστιανός {=chrestianos} was proscribed as heretical.” That's interesting. When was "Chrestian" proscribed as heretical, and why? I'd be inter...