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- Sun Jul 30, 2023 2:52 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: 1 Thessalonians 2:14-16 is a very late interpolation: Celsus's case
- Replies: 31
- Views: 2134
Re: 1 Thessalonians 2:14-16 is a very late interpolation: Celsus's case
Isn't that the implication of Rom 9? Rom 9 [31] But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness. [32] Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone ; [33] As i...
- Sat Jul 29, 2023 11:23 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: 1 Thessalonians 2:14-16 is a very late interpolation: Celsus's case
- Replies: 31
- Views: 2134
Re: 1 Thessalonians 2:14-16 is a very late interpolation: Celsus's case
Building on robert j's comment, I see the key as "hindering us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, so as always to fill up their sins". What are their sins? Rejecting Jesus. Thus through that failing , "wrath has come upon them to the utmost" by being cut off from...
- Mon Jul 24, 2023 10:32 pm
- Forum: General Religious Discussion
- Topic: All christianity is “fundamentalism”
- Replies: 5
- Views: 12218
Re: All christianity is “fundamentalism”
One issue is that the term 'Fundamentalism' tends to be associated in practice with Dispensationalist views about the Bible and prophecy. I agree that this emphasis is not found in the original "The Fundamentals" articles, but it became increasingly dominant after the 1st World War. Evang...
- Sun Jul 16, 2023 11:12 pm
- Forum: General Religious Discussion
- Topic: All christianity is “fundamentalism”
- Replies: 5
- Views: 12218
All christianity is “fundamentalism”
“The fundamentals” was a collection of articles in the 1910s, heavily funded and propagated by an American business man, that assailed “the Higher Criticism” and promoted a few essential tenets for (American) Protestant ministers: atonement, resurrection, miracles, virgin birth, and the creation sto...
- Sun Jul 09, 2023 3:46 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Death by Burning, c.100-300 AD
- Replies: 22
- Views: 2294
Re: Death by Burning, c.100-300 AD
The left-wing/right-wing distinction, and in general the so-called “political spectrum,” is entirely a product of modern nationalism and its politics. The terminology arose from the custom of sitting to the right or to the left of the presiding officer of the National Assembly during the French Revo...
- Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:44 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The real world marketing of The Historical Jesus by Disney & National Geographic
- Replies: 1
- Views: 440
The real world marketing of The Historical Jesus by Disney & National Geographic
The Fractured Kingdom: Uniting Modern Christianity through the Historical Jesus by Jean-Pierre Isbouts Morehouse Publishing June 13, 2023 Bestselling biblical historian , Jean-Pierre Isbouts, weaves the origin stories of Christianity and the Lord's Prayer into a reinvigorating and urgent rallying c...
- Tue Jul 04, 2023 7:54 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: My Wildly Atheistic Conspiracy Theory Concerning Base Paul in 1 Corinthians
- Replies: 25
- Views: 2371
Re: My Wildly Atheistic Conspiracy Theory Concerning Base Paul in 1 Corinthians
Having found what I feel is a "urpaul" and a "base Paul" in 1 Corinthians Pre-Gospel 1 Corinthians.pdf and what appears to be 1 or more writers that seem to postdate the Gospel stories and Acts in that letter Post Gospel and Acts 1 Corinthians.pdf I would like to put forth a sce...
- Sun Jul 02, 2023 9:22 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: On the evolution of the notion of "outer space" as the place where Jesus was crucified according to 1 Corinthians 2:6-8
- Replies: 13
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Re: On the evolution of the notion of "outer space" as the place where Jesus was crucified according to 1 Corinthians 2:
I don’t see what the NT’s various poetics of the crucifixion motif have to do with any definite model of the physical cosmos. Even Corinthians 2:6-8 has more directly to do with wisdom, knowledge, ignorance, the rulers, and most darkly of all, the contrast of “this aeon” with some other. The three-f...
- Tue Jun 27, 2023 9:10 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The “throwing-down” of the cosmos
- Replies: 9
- Views: 734
Re: The “throwing-down” of the cosmos
Now you point it out, it is indeed a curious expression... Origen, Commentary on John 19.149, seems to agree with you that it is an NT neologism : "That world has nothing below, as this (world has) nothing above, to the one who examines it exactly. For how can this world have anything above, w...
- Tue Jun 27, 2023 8:56 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The “throwing-down” of the cosmos
- Replies: 9
- Views: 734
The “throwing-down” of the cosmos
The NT authors use a curious expression to refer to the original "act" of the creator: The "katabolé" of the cosmos. (1) ἀπὸ καταβολῆς κόσμου -- "from" or "since" the katabolé (2) πρὸ καταβολῆς κόσμου -- "before" the katabolé A standard concordance t...