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by Irish1975
Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:04 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Does the Criterion of Dissimilarity prove history?
Replies: 20
Views: 3468

Re: Does the Criterion of Dissimilarity prove history?

Jesus, Criteria, and the Demise of Authenticity (2012), ed. by Chris Keith, is a collection of papers by NT scholars who apparently agree that the “criteria” died with the Third Quest of the late 20th century. (I’ve not read it, only heard Keith talk about it on Goodacre’s NT pod.)
by Irish1975
Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:00 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Why Paul never quotes Jesus
Replies: 172
Views: 37067

Re: Why Paul never quotes Jesus

Paul's ritual meal has been turned into a Last Supper with the close citation from Luke's gospel. The dependence of that on Mark is evident, so the origin of 1 Cor 11:23b-25 is based on that chain, Mark > Luke > 1 Cor. One cannot justify any other trajectory based on a linguistic analysis of 1 Cor ...
by Irish1975
Thu Jan 27, 2022 10:45 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The use of κυριος in Paul's letters
Replies: 5
Views: 1930

Re: The use of κυριος in Paul's letters

At any rate, here are some initial thoughts-- 1. The relevance of Philo seems questionable. If you're right that Paul is in lock step with a LXX tradition of speaking about The Kyrios, that's one thing. But we can't presuppose that. 2. An examination of all relevant passages seems necessary. 3. Even...
by Irish1975
Thu Jan 27, 2022 10:42 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The use of κυριος in Paul's letters
Replies: 5
Views: 1930

Re: The use of κυριος in Paul's letters

I don't want to field arguments on the above. I'd rather it stand by itself, though if there is anything unclear, I will try to clarify the thought. @spin Isn't it in the spirit of this forum to challenge and question, as well as clarify, each other's interpretations? I'm very interested in this to...
by Irish1975
Thu Jan 27, 2022 10:16 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Why Paul never quotes Jesus
Replies: 172
Views: 37067

Re: Why Paul never quotes Jesus

We shouldn’t omit: 1 Thss 4:15 For we say this to you by the word of the Lord (Τοῦτο γὰρ ὑμῖν λέγομεν ἐν λόγῳ κυρίου), that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will not precede those who have fallen asleep. In the Pauline Corpus, there is no basis for distinguishing a remembere...
by Irish1975
Sat Jan 22, 2022 10:10 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: How Long Before They Include 'Jesus Might Not Have Existed' in University Courses About Christianity?
Replies: 24
Views: 5103

Re: How Long Before They Include 'Jesus Might Not Have Existed' in University Courses About Christianity?

In the discourse of ‘mythicism,’ there is a large and loud contingent who seem to think that any negative or skeptical judgment on the question of Jesus’ historicity, i.e. whether Jesus of Nazareth lived, is ipso facto tantamount to mythicism: some positive claim about how both Christianity and the ...
by Irish1975
Sun Jan 16, 2022 9:07 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Why Paul never quotes Jesus
Replies: 172
Views: 37067

Re: Why Paul never quotes Jesus

We shouldn’t omit: 1 Thss 4:15 For we say this to you by the word of the Lord (Τοῦτο γὰρ ὑμῖν λέγομεν ἐν λόγῳ κυρίου), that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will not precede those who have fallen asleep. In the Pauline Corpus, there is no basis for distinguishing a remembered...
by Irish1975
Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:40 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: If even Tacitus didn't mention Pilate in connection with Jesus...
Replies: 40
Views: 7174

Re: If even Tacitus didn't mention Pilate in connection with Jesus...

Hard to imagine a group accused of odium humani generis being perceived by Romans as a seditious political movement.
by Irish1975
Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:40 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: If even Tacitus didn't mention Pilate in connection with Jesus...
Replies: 40
Views: 7174

Re: If even Tacitus didn't mention Pilate in connection with Jesus...

But Josephus doesn’t “say the same thing” if it’s not something that Tacitus says. I don’t see the relevance of your appeal to Josephus.
by Irish1975
Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:29 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: If even Tacitus didn't mention Pilate in connection with Jesus...
Replies: 40
Views: 7174

Re: If even Tacitus didn't mention Pilate in connection with Jesus...

I just don’t see it in the text, Giuseppe. Am I missing something?