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- Wed Oct 16, 2019 7:40 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Judaizers would have favored the idea of an earthly Messiah
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Re: The Judaizers would have favored the idea of an earthly Messiah
Note that also in Mark there is a quasi-cryptical reference to the crucifixion as a cosmic event in the sense explained by passages as Ephesians 3:18: 42 It was Preparation Day (that is, the day before the Sabbath). So as evening approached, 43 Joseph of Arimathea, a prominent member of the Council,...
- Wed Oct 16, 2019 7:23 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Judaizers would have favored the idea of an earthly Messiah
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Re: The Judaizers would have favored the idea of an earthly Messiah
The illustrations of Justin and Irenaus appealing to Plato are not Pauline -- they are later attempts to address philosophical readers. If Paul could become all things to all "men" then he could surely tell a story as concrete and easy to visualize and understand as, say, a story of the A...
- Wed Oct 16, 2019 7:11 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Judaizers would have favored the idea of an earthly Messiah
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Re: The Judaizers would have favored the idea of an earthly Messiah
Stories of gods doing all sorts of things "in the heavens" was a fundamental part of common mythology going right back to earliest Sumer, yes? what you are saying is that the image of a demigod suffering was common mythology, for example, the death of Attis. But Paul (and true paulines) w...
- Wed Oct 16, 2019 5:05 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Baptism allegorized by a Crucifixion and vice versa
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The Baptism allegorized by a Crucifixion and vice versa
As it was established by P. Lundberg, in the baptismal typology of the early Church Christ descending into the waters of Jordan is associated with the sun appearing for illuminating the universe. The Baptism of Christ is compared with the sun descending to the waters of the Ocean , and this theme i...
- Wed Oct 16, 2019 3:36 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Judaizers would have favored the idea of an earthly Messiah
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Re: The Judaizers would have favored the idea of an earthly Messiah
David, the better definition of mythicism: Positive Mythicism — Jesus was initially conceived of as a celestial being, and only later accumulated an invented biography. There may have been historical figures used as the inspiration for the historicisation (when you come to make your demi-God into an...
- Wed Oct 16, 2019 3:28 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Judaizers would have favored the idea of an earthly Messiah
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Re: The Judaizers would have favored the idea of an earthly Messiah
This talk of a 'mythical Jesus' doesn't make any sense historically Even if there was no actual man born and called 'Jesus' you can still have physical humans who claimed either to be his incarnation or represent him Of these there is a long list of names. these your words show that the mythicism i...
- Wed Oct 16, 2019 3:12 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Judaizers would have favored the idea of an earthly Messiah
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Re: The Judaizers would have favored the idea of an earthly Messiah
the general unability of the hoi polloi (especially if not civilized, see the "fool" Galatians) to represent for themselves a cosmic crucifixion, if not by using earthly images of the crucifixion (even if derived from OT scriptures). I can understand hoi polloi with some acquaintance with...
- Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:54 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Judaizers would have favored the idea of an earthly Messiah
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The Judaizers would have favored the idea of an earthly Messiah
The trend towars the materialization (euhemerization) of the mythical Jesus is formed by two factors, basically: the general unability of the hoi polloi (especially if not civilized, see the "fool" Galatians) to represent for themselves a cosmic crucifixion, if not by using earthly images ...
- Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:43 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Archons knew the Plan of God
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The Archons knew the Plan of God
It seems that the Archons knew the effects of the crucifixion and therefore they wanted to prevent the crucifixion of Jesus. But others say, “No, he betrayed him even though he was good, in accordance with the heavenly knowledge. For the archons knew,” they say, “that if Christ were surrendered to t...
- Tue Oct 15, 2019 8:35 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Christ dancing is a Gnostic Christ judaized by Matthew in a parable
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The Christ dancing is a Gnostic Christ judaized by Matthew in a parable
Matthew 11:17:
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And saying, We have piped to you, and you have not danced; we have mourned to you, and you have not lamented
Grace danceth. I would pipe; dance ye all. Amen.
I would mourn: lament ye all. Amen.
I would mourn: lament ye all. Amen.
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