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- Sun Feb 04, 2024 6:46 am
- Forum: General Religious Discussion
- Topic: Absence of images of Jesus crucified in outer space in Internet
- Replies: 11
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Re: Absence of images of Jesus crucified in outer space in Internet
This looks spacey to me, and not satirically, like calvary = deck of a flying saucer: https://artofericwayne.com/2023/02/22/new-art-golgolon-023/ What makes you think Carrier's book cover is satirical? It depicts his theory in a visually dramatic way. Also, I don't see the Christian Post piece as on...
- Sun Feb 04, 2024 6:27 am
- Forum: General Religious Discussion
- Topic: Absence of images of Jesus crucified in outer space in Internet
- Replies: 11
- Views: 3081
Re: Absence of images of Jesus crucified in outer space in Internet
Let me Google that for you: (Copyrighted images, I am lazy, or both, you must go look). https://www.alamy.com/crucified-astronaut-in-deep-space-3d-rendering-image396690286.html https://www.alamy.com/crucified-astronaut-in-deep-space-3d-rendering-image429243749.html https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2336634...
- Sat Feb 03, 2024 10:59 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: On the use of "historicists" to label the people absolutely persuaded about the historicity of Jesus
- Replies: 39
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Re: On the use of "historicists" to label the people absolutely persuaded about the historicity of Jesus
There may be a general issue here, probably first emphasized in the Grammar of Assent by Newman. There are all kinds of positions about which we are in practice subjectively certain, while formally accepting that we lack conclusive demonstration. (Newman gives the example of our being unable to pro...
- Fri Feb 02, 2024 2:40 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: John the Baptist, redivivus of a 2015 article
- Replies: 132
- Views: 6689
Re: John the Baptist, redivivus of a 2015 article
You need to state your objection more clearly. God's retribution against Jerusalem is in Antiquities book 20 I disagree on this point. In my opinion, God's retribution against Jerusalem is not in Antiquities book 20. At least: not by connecting the destructive effect with the death of only a promin...
- Fri Feb 02, 2024 12:48 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: John the Baptist, redivivus of a 2015 article
- Replies: 132
- Views: 6689
Re: John the Baptist, redivivus of a 2015 article
On a point arising: G'don But that's my point: I don't think we can. Arguably everything that Origen writes about what Josephus wrote in Antiquities can be found in Josephus, assuming that Origen is "reading between the lines". While on the other hand, there are some things that are missi...
- Fri Feb 02, 2024 12:32 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: John the Baptist, redivivus of a 2015 article
- Replies: 132
- Views: 6689
Re: John the Baptist, redivivus of a 2015 article
My objections: 1) the information that God destroyed the city and temple in retribution for the crime of murder not involving the Christian Jesus. ...is not a not-Christian information in Origen, since the death of the brother of Jesus (Christ) is enough to involve Jesus (Christ) and his father YHW...
- Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:38 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: John the Baptist, redivivus of a 2015 article
- Replies: 132
- Views: 6689
Re: John the Baptist, redivivus of a 2015 article
once we consider Origen's view as a view affected by Hegesippus, then that is sufficient to deny that the James read possibly in Josephus by Origen (for example: the James stoned by Ananus) was the same James meant by the "tradition" ended in Hegesippus. The two Jameses are mutually exclu...
- Fri Feb 02, 2024 5:18 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: John the Baptist, redivivus of a 2015 article
- Replies: 132
- Views: 6689
Re: John the Baptist, redivivus of a 2015 article
I re-enter the thread, confident that its recent progress makes another false accusation of participating in its derailment unlikely. You are on to something, G'don, when you write I think it's fair to say that at some point before Origen there was a claim that James the Just was regarded as righteo...
- Thu Feb 01, 2024 3:28 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: On the use of "historicists" to label the people absolutely persuaded about the historicity of Jesus
- Replies: 39
- Views: 1741
Re: On the use of "historicists" to label the people absolutely persuaded about the historicity of Jesus
Euhemerist would be a better term. Euhemerus was persuaded that there was a historical Zeus. I am not asking his reasons to be an euhemerist, i.e. one who does what Euhemerus does. The difficulty being that it is altogether unclear in English what euhemerism is supposed to mean. Euhemerus's theory ...
- Thu Feb 01, 2024 2:01 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: On the use of "historicists" to label the people absolutely persuaded about the historicity of Jesus
- Replies: 39
- Views: 1741
Re: On the use of "historicists" to label the people absolutely persuaded about the historicity of Jesus
So arguably "conventional" Jesus historicists -- whatever that means -- are the ones that have certainty. This appears to include Dr Bart Ehrman, when Lataster writes: "That there are no primary sources for Jesus is generally accepted by ardent historicists", citing and quoting ...