GakuseiDon: "So how is it problematic?"
13 "But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen"
But we are supposed to have just had testimony that Christ had risen. Paul didn't have such testimony, otherwise his reasoning doesn't make sense.
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- Fri Feb 04, 2022 4:49 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Why Paul never quotes Jesus
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- Fri Feb 04, 2022 4:21 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Why Paul never quotes Jesus
- Replies: 172
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Re: Why Paul never quotes Jesus
Your reference to being born of a woman "could be applied to literally anyone who was born Jewish" and is of no relevance. It's only relevant insofar as it shows Paul claims Jesus was born on earth. Saying he was "born to a woman" indicates that Jesus was not essentially a divin...
- Thu Feb 03, 2022 11:25 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Why Paul never quotes Jesus
- Replies: 172
- Views: 37910
Re: Why Paul never quotes Jesus
That's the beauty of messianic expectation. The messiah was naturally Jewish, ie born of a Jewish woman and a descendent of Abraham, of the line of David. That's what was expected. This particular Messianic expectation could be applied to literally anyone who was born Jewish. And I'm not familiar w...
- Thu Feb 03, 2022 9:54 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Is 1 Cor 11:23-27 an Interpolation? (split)
- Replies: 153
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2 Tim & Luke
2 Tim 4:11 (and Col 4:14) may be an effort to establish Lk.
- Thu Feb 03, 2022 8:31 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Is 1 Cor 11:23-27 an Interpolation? (split)
- Replies: 153
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Re: Is 1 Cor 11:23-27 an Interpolation? (split)
Mt 26 Mk 14 Lk 22 1 Cor 11 27 Then he took a cup, and after giving thanks he gave it to them, και λαβων ποτηριον ευχαριστησας εδωκεν αυτοις 23 Then he took a cup, and after giving thanks he gave it to them, και λαβων ποτηριον ευχαριστησας εδωκεν αυτοις 20 And he did the same with the cup after supp...
- Thu Feb 03, 2022 5:54 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Lord / master / king / servant / slave / Rabbi / teacher in all of the NT - Matthew through Luke
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Re: Lord / master / king / servant / slave / Rabbi / teacher in all of the NT - Matthew through Luke
This thread seems to have strayed from BC&H!
- Thu Feb 03, 2022 5:41 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Why Paul never quotes Jesus
- Replies: 172
- Views: 37910
Re: Why Paul never quotes Jesus
[Paul] does not seem like he was at all interested in whatever Jesus said or did here on Earth. Had Jesus said or done anything on earth at the time of Paul's writing? We simply assume by convention that the Jerusalem people were "Christian", though nothing indicates that they were. We on...
- Thu Feb 03, 2022 7:31 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Why Paul never quotes Jesus
- Replies: 172
- Views: 37910
Re: Why Paul never quotes Jesus
It's irrelevant whether it's convention to assume the prior adherents of the Christian sect were Christian, Did the Jerusalem people know anything about Jesus before Paul told them his gospel? I think that is quite a relevant question. Paul is our earliest writer on the subject of Jesus. Working fr...
- Thu Feb 03, 2022 3:13 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Why Paul never quotes Jesus
- Replies: 172
- Views: 37910
Re: Why Paul never quotes Jesus
[Paul] does not seem like he was at all interested in whatever Jesus said or did here on Earth. Had Jesus said or done anything on earth at the time of Paul's writing? We simply assume by convention that the Jerusalem people were "Christian", though nothing indicates that they were. We on...
- Wed Feb 02, 2022 4:28 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Is 1 Cor 11:23-27 an Interpolation? (split)
- Replies: 153
- Views: 77301
Re: The last supper; it is between Luke and Paul
Last but not least, observe the refinement and perfection in Luke->Mark->Matthew Luke υπερ υμων εκχυννομενον Mark το εκχυννομενον υπερ πολλων Matthew το περι πολλων εκχυννομενον That's a classic case of elaboration and expansion right there. The author of Mark tends to write more simply than the ot...