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- Sat Oct 19, 2013 10:57 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Pauline Gospel was a Late Invention
- Replies: 126
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Re: The Pauline Gospel was a Late Invention
- Sat Oct 19, 2013 10:53 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Pauline Gospel was a Late Invention
- Replies: 126
- Views: 161487
Re: The Pauline Gospel was a Late Invention
u mean - "Merely repeating a passage with no explanation is of No real value"?dewitness wrote:Merely repeating a passage with no explanation is of real value.
- Sat Oct 19, 2013 8:35 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: evidence of an earthly human Jesus in the Pauline epistles
- Replies: 31
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Re: evidence of an earthly human Jesus in the Pauline epistl
1 Corinthians 12:3 may be an unlikely scripture to cite for evidence of an earthly Jesus in Pauline epsitles. However,in this particular epistle, Paul appears to be writing against those who curse the earthly Jesus and instead choose to worship a purely spiritual "Lord of Glory." Another ...
- Sat Oct 19, 2013 8:07 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Pauline Gospel was a Late Invention
- Replies: 126
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Re: The Pauline Gospel was a Late Invention
that he [Jesus in Antiquities 20.200] was even "called" christ shows the attempt fails. A priest is not "called" christ. That is nonsense. A priest is anointed, ie. is christ. Being "called christ" indicates a name type reference. Good point. perhaps a name deletion fo...
- Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:09 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Pauline Gospel was a Late Invention
- Replies: 126
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Re: The Pauline Gospel was a Late Invention
One of the versions of ' christ '/' christus ' means "annointed" or "chosen one" - these passages are about high priests being appointed: ie. anointed or chosen The end of Antiquities 20, Cap 9 says this But king Agrippa, ... denied the petitioners their request about that matter...
- Sat Oct 19, 2013 5:53 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Pauline Gospel was a Late Invention
- Replies: 126
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Re: The Pauline Gospel was a Late Invention
Josephus does mention James, the brother of Jesus in the following passage. And now Caesar, upon hearing the death of Festus, sent Albinus into Judea, as procurator. But the king deprived Joseph of the high priesthood, and bestowed the succession to that dignity on the son of Ananus, who was also h...
- Sat Oct 19, 2013 1:38 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Origen's Understanding of the New Testament
- Replies: 17
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Re: evidence of an earthly human Jesus in the Pauline epistl
The last line underlined from Origen appears to argue why the books beyond the first 4 (Mt, Mk, Lk, Jn) should be considered truly as Gospel, even if they are not called out as Gospel typically as these four are, in answer to the objection immediately preceding, "it might be objected that the ...
- Sat Oct 19, 2013 1:26 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: What You Do To Peter You Must Do To Paul: the forgery question
- Replies: 60
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Re: evidence of an earthly human Jesus in the Pauline epistl
The Fabricated Paul: Early Christianity in the Twilight; Hermann Detering (1995) Chapter 1 Chapter 2 Links to the rest are here Here a review of Detering's views on Paul by JPH. . . His case against Pauline authenticity is a failure, and shall remain so. Hermann Detering's Falsified Paul: A Critiqu...
- Fri Oct 18, 2013 9:51 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Origen's Understanding of the New Testament
- Replies: 17
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Re: evidence of an earthly human Jesus in the Pauline epistl
I try to make a point that things Origen wrote concur with Detering's views about Paul, then someone comes along and throws a spanner in the works - arnoldo with "JPH" * - and my initial point is lost. Does any one agree that the quoted works of Origen seem to be discussing the merits of t...
- Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:41 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Pauline Gospel was a Late Invention
- Replies: 126
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Re: The Pauline Gospel was a Late Invention
By taking Origen's writings out of context, it's possible to have it support any absurd claim. "out of context"? "any absurd claim"? hmmm For example, Origen's writings supports that all christian texts were forged in the following passage. . . And,I suppose, when we notice such...