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- Thu Feb 11, 2016 1:47 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Kapyong's Jesus Myth Theory
- Replies: 49
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Re: Kapyong's Jesus Myth Theory
(edited) I didn't think the Didache mentioned the name 'Jesus' at all, but I was wrong (I got confused with another early text: Papias).
- Thu Feb 11, 2016 12:27 am
- Forum: Academic Discussion
- Topic: The Didache.
- Replies: 95
- Views: 68008
Re: The Didache.
. There are various commentaries about this work, some summarized on early-christian-writings' webpage about it Didache passages are associated with a wide range of other texts. From wikipedia - Didache ' Early References ' - The section Two Ways shares the same language with the Epistle of Barnaba...
- Thu Feb 11, 2016 12:05 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Nonsynoptic texts and the synoptic problem.
- Replies: 40
- Views: 23727
Re: Nonsynoptic texts and the synoptic problem.
We are all aware of Q as a hypothetical source used to explain overlaps between Matthew and Luke (usually) on the assumption that neither knew Mark. Most of us are probably also aware of arguments for various Ur-gospels that may figure into the synoptic problem. My question here is: what other text...
- Wed Feb 10, 2016 7:20 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Kapyong's Jesus Myth Theory
- Replies: 49
- Views: 30906
Re: Kapyong's Jesus Myth Theory
I'd transpose these (G.Matthew, G.Luke, G.John) ~70-80 yrs forward ie. mid 2nd century: ~120 AD/CE onwards Well, I am open to a late Gospels theory, but how do you fit the pieces together? How does G.Mark develop into the others? How do you fit in books like the Didakhe and Barnabas, say ? And Papi...
- Wed Feb 10, 2016 7:13 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Re: Apelles and the gospel of John.
- Replies: 104
- Views: 56555
Re: Apelles and the gospel of John.
... I'd love to hear from anyone else giving us an example of a shorter and longer version of a text in early Christianity where the longer text is acknowledged to be the most original. My bet is that we can't find one (i.e. we can't find an example of large sections being 'cut out' of a given text...
- Wed Feb 10, 2016 5:03 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Is anything historical in Acts 2:14-38?
- Replies: 7
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Re: Is anything historical in Acts 2:14-38?
I wonder if characters like Peter reflect 2nd century scenarios more than 1st century ones.
- Wed Feb 10, 2016 4:59 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Apelles and the gospel of John.
- Replies: 84
- Views: 70522
Re: Apelles and the gospel of John.
This is well stated - Here are some of the reasons I suspect a specifically Apellean provenance for the original GJohn: GJohn is a significantly different from the Synoptic gospels. Apelles — in contrast to Marcion who was accused of for the most part of cutting out parts of a synoptic gospel -- was...
- Wed Feb 10, 2016 4:54 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Re: Apelles and the gospel of John.
- Replies: 104
- Views: 56555
Re: Apelles and the gospel of John.
Notice the parallel with the Pauline canon. The Muratorian order: To the Corinthians (51) first, to the Ephesians second, to the Philippians third, (52) to the Colossians fourth, to the Galatians fifth, (53) to the Thessalonians sixth, to the Romans (54-5) seventh. Our order takes the last epistle ...
- Wed Feb 10, 2016 4:52 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Re: Apelles and the gospel of John.
- Replies: 104
- Views: 56555
Re: Apelles and the gospel of John.
... I'd love to hear from anyone else giving us an example of a shorter and longer version of a text in early Christianity where the longer text is acknowledged to be the most original. My bet is that we can't find one (i.e. we can't find an example of large sections being 'cut out' of a given text...
- Wed Feb 10, 2016 10:21 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Re: Apelles and the gospel of John.
- Replies: 104
- Views: 56555
Re: Apelles and the gospel of John.
So I entered into this from the consensus position – one that neither Delafosse nor Loisy contested -- namely that the middle recension was authentic. At various points while writing the series I did consult the Syriac versions, but nothing I found there ever led me question the consensus regarding...