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- Mon Apr 22, 2024 2:41 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: back to the drawing board? the missing sondergut Marcion
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Re: back to the drawing board? the missing sondergut Marcion
I could post all of them but I don't want to distract from Peter's point. Bye.
- Mon Apr 22, 2024 2:39 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: back to the drawing board? the missing sondergut Marcion
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Re: back to the drawing board? the missing sondergut Marcion
Examples of Origen's cryptic referencing of Secret Mark. There are dozens more like this. It's always Romans 2:19 or 16:25 + Mark 1:1 over and over again: Now, certainly the introduction to Christianity is through the Mosaic worship and the prophetic writings; and after the introduction, it is in th...
- Mon Apr 22, 2024 2:38 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: back to the drawing board? the missing sondergut Marcion
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Re: back to the drawing board? the missing sondergut Marcion
We just have to stop addressing this idiotic point of view. Like trying to plug into a plug. It doesn't work. It can't work. No more discussions of Luke alongside Marcion. There is no point.
- Mon Apr 22, 2024 2:37 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: back to the drawing board? the missing sondergut Marcion
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Re: back to the drawing board? the missing sondergut Marcion
What is the point of discussing Luke in relation to Marcion? What is the value in this? They didn't think Luke wrote the gospel. They attributed that to Paul THE apostle.
- Mon Apr 22, 2024 2:32 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: back to the drawing board? the missing sondergut Marcion
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Re: back to the drawing board? the missing sondergut Marcion
The frequency with which he brings up Romans 2:19 and 16:25 he references Mark 1:1 and the Marcionites.
- Mon Apr 22, 2024 2:25 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: back to the drawing board? the missing sondergut Marcion
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Re: back to the drawing board? the missing sondergut Marcion
I forgot to corroborate Romans 2:16 with Mark 1:1. I can do that too. The Marcionites held that there was only one evangelist, only one apostle. This is a Samaritan formulation of the word apostle and is based on the authority of Moses. Moses was the apostle of God. There are no other apostles besid...
- Mon Apr 22, 2024 2:23 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: back to the drawing board? the missing sondergut Marcion
- Replies: 37
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Re: back to the drawing board? the missing sondergut Marcion
It's hard to bring up Secret Mark with certain people here. But clearly there are good reasons for believing that Clement's unwillingness to bring up Secret Mark was shared by Origen.
- Mon Apr 22, 2024 2:19 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: back to the drawing board? the missing sondergut Marcion
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Re: back to the drawing board? the missing sondergut Marcion
Origen knew. Marcion's gospel began with Mark 1:1 and he was aware of the Marcionite claim that this gospel was the one Paul meant by "my gospel."
- Mon Apr 22, 2024 2:14 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: back to the drawing board? the missing sondergut Marcion
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Re: back to the drawing board? the missing sondergut Marcion
Mark 1:1 Origen Commentarii in Ephesios (Fragmenta e catenis) (1) Date: ca.222 - ca.252 Genre: - Theme: Exegesis, Scripture Commentaries Clavis: 1460 Biblio: GREGG J.A.F., The commentary of Origen upon the epistle to the Ephesians, Journal of Theological Studies 3 (1902), 234-244 ; 398-420 ; 554-57...
- Mon Apr 22, 2024 2:09 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: back to the drawing board? the missing sondergut Marcion
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Re: back to the drawing board? the missing sondergut Marcion
Come on. We both know. Whenever Paul's "my gospel" is mentioned half the time Mark 1:1 follows.