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- Sun Apr 07, 2024 5:39 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Was Paul Marcion (in part, at least)?
- Replies: 27
- Views: 650
Re: Was Paul Marcion (in part)?
I'm quite confident that the "Gospel of Mark" was originally much longer and included material that is now found in Acts 16-28. Which verses (or material)? A little bit of stuff prior to Acts 16, primarily, the description of Paul's persecutions and then his vision of Jesus. Then the firs...
- Fri Apr 05, 2024 5:24 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Was Paul Marcion (in part, at least)?
- Replies: 27
- Views: 650
Re: Was Paul Marcion (in part)?
I don't know about Paul "being" Marcion. But really its hard to say much about any of this. I mean its not even clear if Marcion was a real person. I'm quite confident that the "Gospel of Mark" was originally much longer and included material that is now found in Acts 16-28. What...
- Fri Apr 05, 2024 2:19 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Mark as fiction and Matthew and Luke misunderstanding that proposal...
- Replies: 13
- Views: 312
Re: The Mark as fiction and Matthew and Luke misunderstanding that proposal...
Mark crafts a fictional scene using literary allusions, like the example of the triumphal entry. Then Matthew comes along and says, "this happened in order to fulfill scripture", which necessarily indicates that Matthew is interpreting the scene as a literal event that happened "in ac...
- Fri Apr 05, 2024 1:20 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Mark as fiction and Matthew and Luke misunderstanding that proposal...
- Replies: 13
- Views: 312
Re: The Mark as fiction and Matthew and Luke misunderstanding that proposal...
Every scene in the Gospel of Mark draws on the OT, so I'm not really sure what to say about that...StephenGoranson wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2024 12:25 pm Not persuasive. Both draw on OT. No clear disjunction.
- Fri Apr 05, 2024 1:15 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Context for understanding the Ransom Theory
- Replies: 30
- Views: 697
Re: Context for understanding the Ransom Theory
Its difficult to parse “My God, my God, why did you abandon me?” too closely, since its part of a literary reference to Psalm 22, which is about how the sufferer will cause everyone in the world to worship God. So clearly that is the goal of the writer is to make a reference to this concept.
- Fri Apr 05, 2024 12:18 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Mark as fiction and Matthew and Luke misunderstanding that proposal...
- Replies: 13
- Views: 312
Re: The Mark as fiction and Matthew and Luke misunderstanding that proposal...
Here is a somewhat simple example: Mark 1: 29 As soon as they left the synagogue, they entered the house of Simon and Andrew, with James and John. 30 Now Simon’s mother-in-law was in bed with a fever, and they told him about her at once. 31 He came and took her by the hand and lifted her up. Then th...
- Fri Apr 05, 2024 11:27 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Context for understanding the Ransom Theory
- Replies: 30
- Views: 697
Re: Context for understanding the Ransom Theory
Very intersting.
- Fri Apr 05, 2024 12:57 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Irenaeus Says the Carpocratians Referred to Jesus as a "Naked Man" (Nude Hominem)
- Replies: 10
- Views: 1151
Re: Irenaeus Says the Carpocratians Referred to Jesus as a "Naked Man" (Nude Hominem)
I'm still constantly blow away by the depth of the argumentation over writings . Every argument about the nature of Jesus that is known to exist is purely about parsing the details of various writings, often either by assuming the complete truth of a given writing or the complete falsehood of a give...
- Thu Apr 04, 2024 8:20 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The "new covenant" in 2 Cor 3 and Jeremiah 31
- Replies: 5
- Views: 276
Re: The "new covenant" in 2 Cor 3 and Jeremiah 31
To me, it looks like 2 Cor 3 is using Jeremiah here. I'm not fully convinced. But assuming Paul was influenced by Jeremiah here, what does this imply? How was Pauling using Jeremiah? Is Paul's new covenant supposed to be what is described in Jeremiah? Doesn't seem to align. Does this indicate that ...
- Thu Apr 04, 2024 12:09 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The "new covenant" in 2 Cor 3 and Jeremiah 31
- Replies: 5
- Views: 276
The "new covenant" in 2 Cor 3 and Jeremiah 31
I found this quite interesting, but not sure what to make of it: Jeremiah 31:27 The days are surely coming, says the Lord, when I will sow the house of Israel and the house of Judah with the seed of humans and the seed of animals. 28 And just as I have watched over them to pluck up and break down, t...