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by Bingo
Tue Feb 04, 2014 9:28 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Thoughts on Maurice Casey's new book
Replies: 571
Views: 316736

Re: Thoughts on Maurice Casey's new book

talitakum wrote:
Since historicity is measured in terms of probabilities, the Jesus' existence is the most probable event.
Historicity may be measured in terms of probabilities, but fiction is measured in terms of content.
by Bingo
Tue Feb 04, 2014 9:22 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Thoughts on Maurice Casey's new book
Replies: 571
Views: 316736

Re: Thoughts on Maurice Casey's new book

All the witnesses of early Christianity are a theological interpretation of life, teachings, deeds, death and resurrection of a person called Jesus. Therefore, as a matter of fact, Christianity needed an historical Jesus. For whatever reason. They may have fabricated it, but they needed it. What ar...
by Bingo
Tue Feb 04, 2014 8:59 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Thoughts on Maurice Casey's new book
Replies: 571
Views: 316736

Re: Thoughts on Maurice Casey's new book

I wouldn't be surprised if that explains the development of Jesus — a high priest who could provide atonement and judgment from an eternal heavenly temple superior in every way to the earthly one. Some were convinced that this priest was already described in the Psalms, and they built an elaborate ...
by Bingo
Tue Feb 04, 2014 8:40 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Thoughts on Maurice Casey's new book
Replies: 571
Views: 316736

Re: Thoughts on Maurice Casey's new book

... I think you are right insofar as the text was reinterpreted. But I, not have cared about any of this stuff (Psalm 110, Hebrews 5) before found it interesting to see how ambiguous the original Hebrew was. If nobody (relevant) understood who Melchizedek was – or what the word melchi-zedek actuall...
by Bingo
Tue Feb 04, 2014 8:25 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Thoughts on Maurice Casey's new book
Replies: 571
Views: 316736

Re: Thoughts on Maurice Casey's new book

But that wasn't the original sense of Psalm 110. The original meaning is irrelevant. As you know, the Jews throughout that time felt free to reinterpret the text in light of the present day, giving it new meaning. Yep. If my hypothesis is correct, the Jewish sects — attested to by the Qumran sectar...
by Bingo
Tue Feb 04, 2014 8:03 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Thoughts on Maurice Casey's new book
Replies: 571
Views: 316736

Re: Thoughts on Maurice Casey's new book

11QMelch to see that Jews already believed in a heavenly priest who would grant atonement and perform God's judgment on the world. But you realize that in societies like this detailed genealogies were kept on everyone. It would be immediately obvious who was and wasn't of the line of the high pries...
by Bingo
Tue Feb 04, 2014 7:50 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Thoughts on Maurice Casey's new book
Replies: 571
Views: 316736

Re: Thoughts on Maurice Casey's new book

Heck, we only have to look at 11QMelch to see that Jews already believed in a heavenly priest who would grant atonement and perform God's judgment on the world. Fwiw - it looks to me like 11QMelch depends on Palm 82. And it looks to me like Palm 82 in turn, depends on Deuteronomy 32:7-ff. Imho Deut...
by Bingo
Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:01 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Steven DiMattei: Case Against Mythicists
Replies: 135
Views: 113863

Re: Steven DiMattei: Case Against Mythicists

In other words, why are you inventing this hypothetical middleman “scholar”? In other words, why are you inventing this hypothetical middleman “historian”? Why not just cut to the chase? What if we try to convince YOU? What’s wrong with a straightforward discussion? What part of “Jesus never existed...
by Bingo
Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:58 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Steven DiMattei: Case Against Mythicists
Replies: 135
Views: 113863

Re: Steven DiMattei: Case Against Mythicists

... And thus the mythicists claims, not to mention their methodology which we have not discussed at all, are moot. Why do we have to evaluate a long list of abstract methodologies in order to form an opinion about Jesus? Why not just dive right in? Maybe the best way to demonstrate that your Jesus ...
by Bingo
Sun Jan 19, 2014 10:46 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Steven DiMattei: Case Against Mythicists
Replies: 135
Views: 113863

Re: Steven DiMattei: Case Against Mythicists

srd44 wrote: Additionally, although presenting Jesus as the sacrificial animal is a new element ...
Seriously. What do you mean by "new element?"