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- Thu Nov 18, 2021 2:22 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The "Gnosticism" of 2 Corinthians
- Replies: 37
- Views: 6756
Re: The "Gnosticism" of 2 Corinthians
The other alternative is that such a reading is incorrect and that somehow this is much more innocent than it seems. According to Tertullian and Origin (if memory serves), Marcion (or Marcionites) did claim that "the god of this world" was the Jewish creator god, and they pointed to this ...
- Wed Nov 17, 2021 1:07 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The "Gnosticism" of 2 Corinthians
- Replies: 37
- Views: 6756
Re: The "Gnosticism" of 2 Corinthians
I have to ask: how is that Gnostic? Gnosticism, as I understand it, is the idea that a spark of the true God lies within each human being, and there are ways to free that spark from the flesh so that it can reunite with God. Gnostic mythology explains how those sparks were struck from God and ended ...
- Fri Nov 12, 2021 5:08 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Peter Marchant: The Trouble with Pilate
- Replies: 69
- Views: 11375
Re: Peter Marchant: The Trouble with Pilate
... gMark soft-pedals Pilate's action, and includes the high priests and elders as being involved, which I believe is consistent with what we see in Paul What passages in Paul do you have in mind? The one related to the rulers crucifying the Lord of Glory. I didn't want to quote it because I didn't...
- Fri Nov 12, 2021 2:39 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Peter Marchant: The Trouble with Pilate
- Replies: 69
- Views: 11375
Re: Peter Marchant: The Trouble with Pilate
It doesn't seem at all that "Mark" (author) had a such problem. Mark mentions only Pilate as killer of Jesus. Period. . Well,no, not "period". gMark soft-pedals Pilate's action, and includes the high priests and elders as being involved, which I believe is consistent with what w...
- Tue Nov 09, 2021 1:16 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Were the proto-orthodox always the majority?
- Replies: 4
- Views: 1190
Re: Were the proto-orthodox always the majority?
I've extracted passages from Justin Martyr where he notes other Christian groups: Justin Martyr, First Apology : http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/justinmartyr-firstapology.html First Apology , Chap 26: And there is Marcion, a man of Pontus , who is even at this day alive, and teaching his ...
- Sun Nov 07, 2021 7:35 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Say It Aint So Joe. Test. Flav. Eusebius Author/Discoverer?
- Replies: 74
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Re: Searching For Clues At The Scene Of The Crime
Add to this Origen's related comment in Contra Celsus 1.47 : For in the eighteenth volume of the Judaic Antiquities Josephus testifies to John as having been a baptist and promised cleansing to those who were baptized. [F] But he himself, though not believing in Jesus as Christ, [D] in seeking the ...
- Sat Nov 06, 2021 9:09 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Apocalypses [Revelations] and Apocalyptic Literature in the Early Church
- Replies: 6
- Views: 1199
Re: Apocalypses [Revelations] and Apocalyptic Literature in the Early Church
Do you see Nero in that passage b/c of "Beliar [who] will descent from his firmament in the likeness of a man, a lawless king, the slayer of his mother" ? Yes, that and "Of the Twelve [Apostles] one will be delivered into his hands". AFAIK there is universal consensus on Nero be...
- Fri Nov 05, 2021 2:43 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Apocalypses [Revelations] and Apocalyptic Literature in the Early Church
- Replies: 6
- Views: 1199
Re: Apocalypses [Revelations] and Apocalyptic Literature in the Early Church
Maier also notes and discusses the Nero redivivus legend, the belief that Nero had either not died or that he was in a kind of “hot storage” awaiting the right time to rise from hell to persecute the church as Antichrist, found in the second century Sibylline Oracles (3.63-74; 5.25-35, 93-110, 214-...
- Thu Nov 04, 2021 4:02 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Resources about a dying/rising Earthly Jesus who did not Preach?
- Replies: 24
- Views: 3667
Re: Resources about a dying/rising Earthly Jesus who did not Preach?
According to my own amateur theory of Christian origins, Jesus became popular after death because he was thought to be in heaven and it was possible for pagans and Jewish people to invoke his magic power by calling on his name. 1 He may or may not have had an obscure life, but no-one was interested...
- Thu Nov 04, 2021 3:57 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Resources about a dying/rising Earthly Jesus who did not Preach?
- Replies: 24
- Views: 3667
Re: Resources about a dying/rising Earthly Jesus who did not Preach?
1. The fact that we have Christian commentators complaining that Jesus's alleged contemporaries did not mention him in their records That sounds interesting. Do you have any references to those Christian commentators? I'd be interested in those references if they were early. The only one I'm aware ...