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by GakuseiDon
Sun Dec 19, 2021 1:42 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Do you know historicists who reject entirely all the Testimonia Flaviana as interpolations ?
Replies: 76
Views: 12576

Re: Do you know historicists who reject entirely all the Testimonia Flaviana as interpolations ?

If we look at Paul's use of "earthly" terms, it's clear that it favours an "earthly" Jesus, since that is the implication of Paul's use of "seed of David", "seed of Abraham", "Christ came from the Jews", etc. … So the most parsimonious explanation f...
by GakuseiDon
Sun Dec 19, 2021 3:35 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Do you know historicists who reject entirely all the Testimonia Flaviana as interpolations ?
Replies: 76
Views: 12576

Re: Do you know historicists who reject entirely all the Testimonia Flaviana as interpolations ?

An earthly Jesus can still be non-historical, as per GA Wells' theory for example. An earthly Jesus can still be mythical, as per Marcion. Sure. Are you differentiating or do you differentiate non-historical and mythical? Yes, depending on the theory. A "fictional" Jesus would be non-hist...
by GakuseiDon
Sat Dec 18, 2021 7:21 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Do you know historicists who reject entirely all the Testimonia Flaviana as interpolations ?
Replies: 76
Views: 12576

Re: Do you know historicists who reject entirely all the Testimonia Flaviana as interpolations ?

I think a historical Jesus would be the most parsimonious explanation if the Pauline epistles gave better accounts than they do eg. if they were more explicit about James being the brother of Jesus ie. beyond Gal 1:19 the Pauline epistles had better provenance than they do for other reasons (but, l...
by GakuseiDon
Wed Dec 15, 2021 3:07 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Is Romans 9:5 a late catholic interpolation?
Replies: 42
Views: 8376

Re: Is Romans 9:5 a late catholic interpolation?

Not so much "Jew first, but also the Greek", but more "Natural/flesh first, but really the spiritual". Yes Paul has a flesh/spirit theology across many passages. But are you saying that Paul is not primarily talking in Romans 9-11 about the Jewish people as constituted under the...
by GakuseiDon
Sun Dec 12, 2021 1:29 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Is Romans 9:5 a late catholic interpolation?
Replies: 42
Views: 8376

Re: Is Romans 9:5 a late catholic interpolation?

It is worth pondering that almost every affirmation made in 9:4-5 of the distinctiveness of the Jews has its contrary/contrast elsewhere in the epistle: to the Israelites belongs the adoption as sons For all who are being led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God. (8:14) It is not the childre...
by GakuseiDon
Sat Dec 11, 2021 8:44 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Paul and the Vision of Isaiah
Replies: 112
Views: 35120

Re: Paul and the Vision of Isaiah

I think it's worth noting that both Paul and gMark reference the book of Isaiah frequently. Some of gMark seems to have 'ripped off' events in Isaiah. Paul used references to Isaiah more than to any other OT book. For Paul: according to here: https://biblicalstudies.org.uk/pdf/bbr/isaiah_oss.pdf An ...
by GakuseiDon
Fri Dec 10, 2021 10:34 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Is Romans 9:5 a late catholic interpolation?
Replies: 42
Views: 8376

Re: Is Romans 9:5 a late catholic interpolation?

The text calls Christ God. Because this statement is genuinely un-Pauline, and most likely a mimicry of 2 Corinthians 11:31 and/or Romans 1:25 and/or the LXX Psalms, and ambiguously worded like many other fraudulent biblical texts, and an abrupt change of subject matter within the discourse about t...
by GakuseiDon
Sat Dec 04, 2021 2:31 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Understanding early Christianity beyond the Church Fathers
Replies: 3
Views: 1410

Re: Understanding early Christianity beyond the Church Fathers

I'd say that, throughout history, 90% of Christians had no idea and no interest in Christianity other than those parts that were socially useful. (I'd say that this is the same with ancient Romans and Greeks as well.) If the church leaders claimed that Jesus was of a different substance to the Fathe...
by GakuseiDon
Sat Dec 04, 2021 1:00 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Paul and the Vision of Isaiah
Replies: 112
Views: 35120

Re: Paul and the Vision of Isaiah

The statement that the demons recognized Christ seems like it must be a response to the claim that Christ came into the world disguised and unknown to the rulers of this world. Interestingly, while I would say that Mark agrees with Paul on so many points, this seems to be an instance of disagreemen...
by GakuseiDon
Fri Dec 03, 2021 7:08 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: "Gentiles...circumcised from [their] error by Christ [i.e. Iesous the Christ]", JUSTIN, DIAL., CH. XLVII
Replies: 8
Views: 1836

Re: JUSTIN MARTYR DIALOGUE WITH TRYPHO, CH. XLVII

Perhaps it parallels a similar theme in Mark 9: [37] Whosoever shall receive one of such children in my name, receiveth me: and whosoever shall receive me, receiveth not me, but him that sent me. [38] And John answered him, saying, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name, and he followeth ...