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by John T
Thu Apr 02, 2015 4:00 pm
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Was Jesus an Essene?
Replies: 162
Views: 108157

Re: Was Jesus an Essene?

" And the Lord will accomplish glorious things which have never been [He..] for He will heal the wounded, and revive the dead and bring good news to the poor. "...(4Q521) A Messianic Apocalypse. " Jesus answered them, "Go and tell John what you hear and see: the dead are raised, ...
by John T
Thu Apr 02, 2015 3:42 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Richard Carrier slams Ehrman's latest book
Replies: 164
Views: 99195

Re: Richard Carrier slams Ehrman's latest book

I found the latter quote (“it must have been remarkably early in the Christian tradition") on p. 279 on Google Books instead of p. 276, so I guess Carrier is using a different version. He links to the hardcopy version on Amazon in his blog post. Perhaps try a few pages after the page numbers h...
by John T
Thu Apr 02, 2015 3:35 pm
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Was Jesus an Essene?
Replies: 162
Views: 108157

Re: Was Jesus an Essene?

I don't want to distracted by these shotgun assertions put forward by John T, but the debate with spin was clearly lost by John T who has a habit - like many at this forum of making assertion after assertion with only the most superficial of attempts to ignore the situation 'on the ground' as it we...
by John T
Thu Apr 02, 2015 12:55 pm
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Essenes always held Passover on Wednesday?
Replies: 24
Views: 23497

Re: Essenes always held Passover on Wednesday?

For the Essenes, Passover was always on a Wednesday. However, for the Temple Priests, Passover was calculated by the moon and it could fall on different day other than Wednesday. It gets more confusing when you learn that the Romans also had their own calendar in 30 A.D. Still, all three different c...
by John T
Thu Apr 02, 2015 12:13 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Richard Carrier slams Ehrman's latest book
Replies: 164
Views: 99195

Re: The fact checking of Carrier begins

I now have a library copy of the book; " How Jesus Became God " by Bart D. Ehrman. So, I decided to start the fact checking process. Right from the get go I have a problem. I can't find the quotes about Ehrman where Carrier claims they are to be found. For example: " Ehrman concludes ...
by John T
Thu Apr 02, 2015 9:02 am
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Essenes always held Passover on Wednesday?
Replies: 24
Views: 23497

Re: Essenes always held Passover on Wednesday?

The Synoptics as they stand have Friday 15th, with Passover on Thursday night. Again, the synoptics make sense if you compare and contrast it with the Dead Sea Scrolls. How about doing a little research and find out what day of the week the Jews actually celebrated Passover in 30 A.D.? Yes, I alrea...
by John T
Thu Apr 02, 2015 8:10 am
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Essenes always held Passover on Wednesday?
Replies: 24
Views: 23497

Re: Essenes always held Passover on Wednesday?

Stephan Huller wrote:But what do you do about the Sabbath reference in John 19:31? If the Day of Preparation was just before the Sabbath how could the fifteenth have been on a Wednesday?
The Day of Preparation is always before the Sabbath because Passover is a Sabbath a.k.a. holy convocation. Leviticus 23:4-8
by John T
Thu Apr 02, 2015 6:20 am
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Essenes always held Passover on Wednesday?
Replies: 24
Views: 23497

Essenes always held Passover on Wednesday?

One of the problems I find with Bart D. Ehrman is, he does not appear to give much weight to the Dead Sea Scrolls. For me, the proof that Christianity was an offshoot of the Essenes is found within the words of the Dead Sea Scrolls. Many of Ehrman's noted discrepancies he finds within the New Testam...
by John T
Thu Apr 02, 2015 4:03 am
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Was Jesus an Essene?
Replies: 162
Views: 108157

Re: Was Jesus an Essene?

We actually had this discussion with spin when John T first came to the forum. He wouldn't accept the carbon dating that clearly demonstrated that the scrolls were pre-Christian. Clearly demonstrated? Most were dated pre-Christian but a few were dated around the beginning of the 1st century. Be as ...
by John T
Wed Apr 01, 2015 1:29 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Richard Carrier slams Ehrman's latest book
Replies: 164
Views: 99195

Re: Richard Carrier slams Ehrman's latest book

You keep using that word, I don't think it means what you think it means. I mean, I am the one after all who has read Brodie and Dykstra, who you are attacking, having never read them. And the ONLY reason you're attacking two accomplished scholars is because one is a mythicist and the other said, &...