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by Diogenes the Cynic
Mon Dec 19, 2022 9:21 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: List of arguments to date Mark after Hadrian
Replies: 58
Views: 38886

Re: List of arguments to date Mark after Hadrian

On the other hand, re the name of the Gospel -- someone (was it Markus Vinzent?) pointed out that the gospels have always been known by the names we assign to them so it seems reasonable to think that they were assigned those titles/names from their beginning. But I'm not going to bet my house on i...
by Diogenes the Cynic
Sun Dec 18, 2022 10:08 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: List of arguments to date Mark after Hadrian
Replies: 58
Views: 38886

Re: List of arguments to date Mark after Hadrian

no independent evidence of the existence of GMark until the mid second century ideological portrayal of Pharisees is unhistorical but explicable in a post 135 rivαlry context given the paucity of evidence for rabbinic movement until then (the yavneh post 70 tradition notwithstanding) more certainty...
by Diogenes the Cynic
Wed Dec 14, 2022 12:11 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Matthean Posteriority: "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem" (Did Lukan redaction influence Matthew 23:37?)
Replies: 29
Views: 2006

Re: Matthean Posteriority: "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem" (Did Lukan redaction influence Matthew 23:37?)

I don't think enough attention gets paid to the parallels between Matthew and Acts on the death of Judas. One of them clearly appears to be responding to the other, even given the differences: When Judas, who had betrayed him, saw that Jesus was condemned, he was seized with remorse and returned th...
by Diogenes the Cynic
Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:52 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Matthean Posteriority: "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem" (Did Lukan redaction influence Matthew 23:37?)
Replies: 29
Views: 2006

Re: Matthean Posteriority: "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem" (Did Lukan redaction influence Matthew 23:37?)

Ken Olson: Thanks for your comments on the literary talents of Luke and Matt respectively, with and without MPH. RE: the comments of Diogenes the Cynic above: Does MPH usually assume that Matt came after both Luke and Acts (such that Acts could have influenced Matthew)? I actually don't know. I hav...
by Diogenes the Cynic
Mon Dec 12, 2022 11:20 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Matthean Posteriority: "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem" (Did Lukan redaction influence Matthew 23:37?)
Replies: 29
Views: 2006

Re: Matthean Posteriority: "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem" (Did Lukan redaction influence Matthew 23:37?)

I don't think enough attention gets paid to the parallels between Matthew and Acts on the death of Judas. One of them clearly appears to be responding to the other, even given the differences: When Judas, who had betrayed him, saw that Jesus was condemned, he was seized with remorse and returned the...
by Diogenes the Cynic
Fri Apr 15, 2022 3:04 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Denying a Jesus in the Flesh is not necessarily the same as mythicism
Replies: 34
Views: 3981

Re: Denying a Jesus in the Flesh is not necessarily the same as mythicism

John T wrote: Fri Apr 15, 2022 11:49 am And there lies the problem, as a Buddhist you do not understand the basics of Christianity.
There is no such thing as "the basics of Christianity," just a billion and a half different individuals each carrying their own set of "basics" around with them.
by Diogenes the Cynic
Fri Apr 15, 2022 3:00 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Denying a Jesus in the Flesh is not necessarily the same as mythicism
Replies: 34
Views: 3981

Re: Denying a Jesus in the Flesh is not necessarily the same as mythicism

Additionally, not all atheists e.g. Dr. Ehrman are mythicists but all mythicists, Richard Carrier et al. are atheists. This is false. There are Christian mythicists, Thomas L. Brodie is still a Catholic priest. I think Freke and Gandy are too. We should not assume that Christians are incapable of c...
by Diogenes the Cynic
Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:07 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What was Marcion's Gospel?
Replies: 63
Views: 12709

Re: What was Marcion's Gospel?

I am persuaded by the theory that Luke is an expansion/rescension of Marcion's Gospel rather than Marcion being an edited version of Luke. The latter doesn't really make much sense and is supported by no evidence but the accusations of hostile opponents who themselves were in no position to know whi...
by Diogenes the Cynic
Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:53 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: If the synoptic gospels are three different translations of a common Hebrew or Aramaic source
Replies: 119
Views: 27873

Re: If the synoptic gospels are three different translations of a common Hebrew or Aramaic source

On the other hand, there is some work completed by a French scholar that shows if one replaces much of the Greek text of Mark and Matthew with Hebrew/Aramaic then one does encounter a significant number of puns and various wordplays that do not appear in the Greek. This is easy to do if you get to ...
by Diogenes the Cynic
Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:48 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: If the synoptic gospels are three different translations of a common Hebrew or Aramaic source
Replies: 119
Views: 27873

Re: If the synoptic gospels are three different translations of a common Hebrew or Aramaic source

If we go by what church writers say, Mark was written by a follower of Peter, and I assume Peter spoke Hebrew (and/or Aramaic) and needed help with Greek (as per 1 Peter 5:12, which I think is genuine, and as Josephus did), and Mark's gospel would effectively be a translation of a Hebrew or Aramaic...