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- Sat Jun 17, 2023 4:40 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: After 20 Years Plus of Flogging His Theory How Many Here at the Forum Believe Mountainman?
- Replies: 259
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Re: After 20 Years Plus of Flogging His Theory How Many Here at the Forum Believe Mountainman?
That's basically what I meant. For the 4th century, the Eusebian "Church History" as extension of Acts would have been sufficient to finish that task. Everything else looks completely superfluous to me. For the rest, you could just conjure the typical apologetics you sometimes find even to...
- Thu Jun 15, 2023 5:10 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: After 20 Years Plus of Flogging His Theory How Many Here at the Forum Believe Mountainman?
- Replies: 259
- Views: 121323
Re: After 20 Years Plus of Flogging His Theory How Many Here at the Forum Believe Mountainman?
I get the impression that you are proposing what is in fact a "perfect crime" that was so cleverly and so comprehensively organized that not a single clue was left to be found that would lead to doubts. Is that a fair description? If various authors were manufactured to appear to have wit...
- Wed Jun 14, 2023 1:34 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: After 20 Years Plus of Flogging His Theory How Many Here at the Forum Believe Mountainman?
- Replies: 259
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Re: After 20 Years Plus of Flogging His Theory How Many Here at the Forum Believe Mountainman?
Did you miss the note? That before you approach idea (2) you have to evaluate idea (1). If idea (1) fails then we don't get to idea (2). I accept that. Without accepting idea (1) as true, idea (2) is nonsensical. This I can understand too. (2) is contingent on (1). No, I didn't miss the note. My co...
- Mon Jun 12, 2023 4:42 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: After 20 Years Plus of Flogging His Theory How Many Here at the Forum Believe Mountainman?
- Replies: 259
- Views: 121323
Re: After 20 Years Plus of Flogging His Theory How Many Here at the Forum Believe Mountainman?
Idea (2) - Evidence of systematic Christian identify theft suggests Arius may not have been a Christian, but in fact a Platonic theologian, and may be identified with the Gnostic Leucius Charinus (i.e. Arius authored at least some of the NTA) If I look at suggestions like this, I am a bit surprised...
- Mon Jun 12, 2023 4:25 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: How Ancient Apocalyptic Jewish Ascent Esotericism Laid the Foundations of Christianity
- Replies: 18
- Views: 1376
- Sat Jun 10, 2023 2:40 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: How Ancient Apocalyptic Jewish Ascent Esotericism Laid the Foundations of Christianity
- Replies: 18
- Views: 1376
Re: How Ancient Apocalyptic Jewish Ascent Esotericism Laid the Foundations of Christianity
the odes get ignored You've got three people in this thread alone who would be interested in the Odes (you, me, and I would guess Ulan). If it's not being talked about, who should we blame? Surely the people who are interested in it and not talking about it? So talk about it. Here's a question. Wer...
- Sat Jun 10, 2023 2:34 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: How Ancient Apocalyptic Jewish Ascent Esotericism Laid the Foundations of Christianity
- Replies: 18
- Views: 1376
- Sat Jun 10, 2023 2:33 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: How Ancient Apocalyptic Jewish Ascent Esotericism Laid the Foundations of Christianity
- Replies: 18
- Views: 1376
Re: How Ancient Apocalyptic Jewish Ascent Esotericism Laid the Foundations of Christianity
this is an awkward position i feel to take. it's not black and white but your original question hinted at pre-christian roots, well yes there has to be some as well. perhaps the wisdom side of Judaism or some reflective or esoteric side that doesn't really feel threatened by hellenism or need to ap...
- Sat Jun 10, 2023 2:25 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: How Ancient Apocalyptic Jewish Ascent Esotericism Laid the Foundations of Christianity
- Replies: 18
- Views: 1376
Re: How Ancient Apocalyptic Jewish Ascent Esotericism Laid the Foundations of Christianity
Yes I think they were, the Odes are full of ascent esotericism and visions, far more than Paul's brief reference to the same thing Andrew Criddle's remark aside, there's also this: The video doesn't only talk about 2Cor 12 in the context of Merkabah mysticism and Hekhalot literature, it also mentio...
- Tue Jun 06, 2023 8:33 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: How Ancient Apocalyptic Jewish Ascent Esotericism Laid the Foundations of Christianity
- Replies: 18
- Views: 1376
Re: How Ancient Apocalyptic Jewish Ascent Esotericism Laid the Foundations of Christianity
Agreed. I was referring to those people here who have made up their mind that the connection of Christianity to Judaism is a secondary development.Peter Kirby wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 3:39 pmI've seen only the title so far, but it doesn't sound that far off to me.