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- Sat Apr 20, 2024 2:25 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Antitheses and the origin of Luke
- Replies: 46
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Re: The Antitheses and the origin of Luke
This is an incredible thread. Got my head buzzing, and I have questions about many of the topics brought up here: Did Marcion know about the claim that Luke was the author of Luke? Did he know the name "Luke"? Tertullian certainly did, and he certainly presupposes more or less that Marcio...
- Sat Apr 20, 2024 1:02 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Antitheses and the origin of Luke
- Replies: 46
- Views: 976
Re: The Antitheses and the origin of Luke
Andrew has already offered a reasonable answer to this question, but I would like to add that I find the question itself seems to suggest that this is an odd or perhaps counterintuitive view in need of a special defense, which I don't think it is. No, not in those words. How about just a defense of...
- Sat Apr 20, 2024 11:42 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Antitheses and the origin of Luke
- Replies: 46
- Views: 976
Re: The Antitheses and the origin of Luke
Andrew has already offered a reasonable answer to this question, but I would like to add that I find the question itself seems to suggest that this is an odd or perhaps counterintuitive view in need of a special defense, which I don't think it is. No, not in those words. How about just a defense of...
- Sat Apr 20, 2024 6:52 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Gospel priority
- Replies: 108
- Views: 3429
Re: Gospel priority
I don't think any of the evangelists that were later gathered into the four gospel canon meant for his work to be read alongside other gospels which had equal authority. I sometimes wonder about John vis-a-vis Mark, whether it was intended to be a John and Mark situation by the author of John. The ...
- Sat Apr 20, 2024 6:20 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Antitheses and the origin of Luke
- Replies: 46
- Views: 976
Re: The Antitheses and the origin of Luke
It's one thing for Marcion to say 'this was the original, that was an interpolation' when he does not know. It's another thing if Marcion originated the gospel text and wanted it to be accepted. In that case, transparency is unexpected. IMHO Marcion explicitly presented his Gospel text as a critica...
- Wed Apr 17, 2024 11:01 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Antitheses and the origin of Luke
- Replies: 46
- Views: 976
Re: The Antitheses and the origin of Luke
Alright, then I still tend to think Basilides is best explained as knowing Luke. 3) There is a third text in which Basilides appears to be commenting on the text of Luke, which is found in (Pseudo) Hippolytus, Refutation of All Heresies, given here with David Litwa’s translation: ὁπότε οὖν ἔδει ἀρθ...
- Wed Apr 17, 2024 10:22 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Antitheses and the origin of Luke
- Replies: 46
- Views: 976
Re: The Antitheses and the origin of Luke
Alright, then I still tend to think Basilides is best explained as knowing Luke. 3) There is a third text in which Basilides appears to be commenting on the text of Luke, which is found in (Pseudo) Hippolytus, Refutation of All Heresies, given here with David Litwa’s translation: ὁπότε οὖν ἔδει ἀρθ...
- Tue Apr 16, 2024 2:31 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Antitheses and the origin of Luke
- Replies: 46
- Views: 976
Re: The Antitheses and the origin of Luke
May we have the citations, please?Secret Alias wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2024 2:14 pm What's the single most cited line in Marcionite literature?
Hint. It's not even from Luke.
Matthew 5:18.
- Tue Apr 16, 2024 2:06 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Antitheses and the origin of Luke
- Replies: 46
- Views: 976
Re: The Antitheses and the origin of Luke
There are a few possibilities: (1) No statement on this topic whatsoever goes back to the Antitheses. (2) A statement about Luke's gospel doesn't go back to the Antitheses. (3) A statement about Luke's gospel does go back to the Antitheses, but both Luke and the Gospel used by Marcion were too old ...
- Mon Apr 15, 2024 11:32 am
- Forum: Academic Discussion
- Topic: Are there Marcion-Johannine readings?
- Replies: 3
- Views: 92
Re: Are there Marcion-Johannine readings?
I have not found any yet. Thanks. No, me neither, but I've only just started looking. I posit that there is a literary relationship between John and the synoptics and that John knew and used all of then. I also think we have enough data to say there is a literary relationship between Luke and the E...