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by Adam
Tue Jun 28, 2016 11:02 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Best Bible Version for Scholars for Synoptic Problem?
Replies: 49
Views: 51190

Re: Best Bible Version for Scholars for Synoptic Problem?

Here's an even worse example of how unsuitable the ESV can be for scholarly use. Our English verb "to see" is conjugated to translate THREE Greek verbs, horao, eidan, and theomai. Similarly "say" comes in variants critical for scholarly differentiation. But yes, MMS, the text can...
by Adam
Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:46 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Best Bible Version for Scholars for Synoptic Problem?
Replies: 49
Views: 51190

Best Bible Version for Scholars for Synoptic Problem?

To prove anything about the Synoptic Problem, analysis of the Greek is necessary. However, it is not sufficient because most people don't know Greek to be able to read the answer. To display anything sufficiently to impress most people, use of English is essential. What Bible translation into Englis...
by Adam
Thu Jun 16, 2016 9:50 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: How the evangelists understood the nature of their gospels
Replies: 48
Views: 35426

Re: How the evangelists understood the nature of their gospe

This is a bit off topic, but it's a major disappointment to me and confusing how writers like Irenaeus and Jerome and Clement of Alexandria make reference to various famous writers and literature like that of Papias or various Hebrew/Nazarene "gospels" or Hegesippus and yet these writings...
by Adam
Wed Jun 15, 2016 3:20 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: How the evangelists understood the nature of their gospels
Replies: 48
Views: 35426

Re: How the evangelists understood the nature of their gospe

After all WE KNOW the Imperial authorities confiscated the Diatessaron from the churches of the East in the fifth/sixth century. Maybe whatever was used as the ONE gospel in any church was seized by the Romans as part of this deal. This would account for the disappearance of variously any diatessar...
by Adam
Wed Jun 15, 2016 11:17 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: How the evangelists understood the nature of their gospels
Replies: 48
Views: 35426

Re: How the evangelists understood the nature of their gospe

Interesting developments here. This Jewish source indicates that Christians made a deal with Romans to "canonize" four gospels instead of one, and had to agree to discard the one. Now, why (SA) do we have to assume that the "one" is Tatian's diatesssaron or basically like it? The...
by Adam
Tue Jun 14, 2016 10:23 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: How the evangelists understood the nature of their gospels
Replies: 48
Views: 35426

Re: How the evangelists understood the nature of their gospe

John 21:24 This is the disciple who is bearing witness about these things, and who has written these things, and we know that his testimony is true. [According to Teeple, that's a late comment from R, the Redactor. John 21;25 is even later, just a gloss that's missing from Sinaiticus prime.] What a...
by Adam
Mon Jun 13, 2016 1:43 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Peter Getting Intimidated by a Servant Girl
Replies: 9
Views: 5565

Re: Peter Getting Intimidated by a Servant Girl

Peter perhaps set the tone for 2000 years of conversion witness stories by relating to John Mark in the gospels that he did bad things before the Holy Spirit saved him and turned his life around. Does Price think he overrules 2000 years of Christianity?
by Adam
Sun Jun 12, 2016 8:32 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: John the Baptist is Historical
Replies: 24
Views: 14359

Re: John the Baptist is Historical

I thought I had found the scholarly vehicle to display how the gospels present John the Baptizer in so many ways that we can't really doubt he existed historically. On the Blasphemy & the Passion Narrative thread I had started displaying the comparative gospels to reveal the source elements. (I...
by Adam
Fri Jun 10, 2016 8:53 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Agrippa killed James the brother of John with the sword
Replies: 194
Views: 57623

Re: Agrippa killed James the brother of John with the sword

I have seen Mark 9:49 referenced in regard to the Atonement, when I think Mark 10:45 is the verse intended that established that Jesus came as a ransom for many. "For the Son of Man did not come to be served but to serve and to give his life as a ransom for many." This is the basis for Chr...
by Adam
Wed Jun 08, 2016 5:01 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Did Jesus Baptise people?
Replies: 66
Views: 36284

Re: Did Jesus Baptise people?

Casey may be right. John 3:22 to 4:3 is very disparate in origin. Using the text already presented here, here is Howard M. Teeple's breakdown into five components. S=Source, probably a text underlying (not derived from) the Synoptics. G=Gnostic type source. E=Editor who drew at least these two sour...