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It would be interesting to find out which Church Father has the lowest frequency of appearances of 'Christ' in his writings. My guess is Clement of Alexandria. For example there are only 7 references to 'Christ' in Book Two of the Stromata and at least a few of them are clearly to 'Chrest(os') not C...

It is shocking to realize (I had no idea previous to this thread) that Celsus never once uses the title 'Christ.' He doesn't have a clue that this has anything to do with Jesus. This is a most surprising discovery. How can it be explained? As Origen notes "A Jew, however, would not admit that a...

Where is the actual evidence that thanatos = Titus other than your assertion of the fact?

It is curious that Celsus cannot find an explanation of the 'Son of God' figure from the sources available to him. It is true he certainly uses orthodox Christian sources - and probably Justin and Irenaeus. But it is certainly true that he cannot find any trace of an explanation or origin of the ter...

This might argue against the idea that the Marcionites understood Jesus merely as a generic 'god' (or 'God') and not the Son: Some of them will concede that their God is the same as that of the Jews, while others will maintain that he is a different one, to whom the latter is in opposition, and that...

Some more notes from Celsus: 1. the Jew used a gospel where 'the Son of God' was born according to a virgin birth 2. used a gospel where "the great God, who had already sent two angels ... to keep you, His only Son, there in safety" (i.e. Egypt) 3. used a gospel which had the 'beloved Son'...

It is interesting to note a few things about Celsus: 1. even the Jew (let's assume from a second century work) makes reference to the Christian identification of Jesus as 'Son of God.' It is of central significance for Christianity. 2. Celsus himself sees the Son of God as having central significanc...

Celsus's references to the phenomenon: Book 1 A few years ago he began to teach this doctrine, being regarded by Christians as the Son of God. And it is a Jew who addresses the following language to Him whom we acknowledge to be our Lord Jesus: When you were bathing, says the Jew, beside John, you s...

It all goes to why was he deified in the first place. Well yes sort of. I guess I am wondering if the gospel needs God to be on the Cross, and I think it does, wouldn't it have been just as easy to call Jesus 'God' assume the Jews only had one - or alternatively that the Jews didn't know this god (...

Because it is assumed based on his perceived sacrifice, and context was not what it is today back then.

But surely those sacrificing animals didn't call the sacrificed animals 'son.'