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by John T
Fri Mar 20, 2015 3:57 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: in defence of astrotheology
Replies: 432
Views: 350473

Re: in defence of astrotheology

"[Plato believes] Astronomy is at the foundation of science, philosophy and theology." ...Robert Tulip ******************* Not the Plato I know. Plato believed in four levels of reality. 1. images 2. objects 3. mathematical objects 4. forms Plato believed that just five polyhedral solids m...
by John T
Fri Mar 13, 2015 4:34 pm
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Urim and Thummim
Replies: 20
Views: 22421

Re: Urim and Thummim

Guys, Thanks for all of your help, especially Peter. After scanning all the links, (which left me with a killer headache) the best answer I could find for the origins for the Urim and Thummim comes from the Samaritian Pentateuch. "And Aaron shall bear the names of the children of Israel in the ...
by John T
Fri Mar 13, 2015 5:16 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Bayesian Probability... in Space! (uhm... History)
Replies: 24
Views: 24304

Re: Bayesian Probability... in Space! (uhm... History)

Carrier may think he reduced the cost of Jesus by 15% in just 15 minutes but as the commercial goes on to says; 'that is not how it works, that is not how any of this works.' Probability theory: The branch of mathematics that studies the likelihood of occurrence of random events in order to predict ...
by John T
Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:25 pm
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Urim and Thummim
Replies: 20
Views: 22421

Re: Urim and Thummim

I found a book titled; " Book of Legends/Sefer Ha-Aggadah: Legends from the Talmud and Midrash " by William G. Braude. The book is written in English and the index has several listings for Urim and Thummim. However, I don't believe the book will be found at my public library nor do I want ...
by John T
Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:16 pm
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Urim and Thummim
Replies: 20
Views: 22421

Re: Urim and Thummim

@semiopen, Not to argue over spelling/semantics but apparently (according to your wiki source), 'haggadah' is acceptable. " Homiletic midrashim embraces the interpretation of the non-legal portions of the Hebrew Bible. These midrashim are sometimes referred to as aggadah or haggadah, a loosely ...
by John T
Thu Mar 12, 2015 1:15 pm
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Urim and Thummim
Replies: 20
Views: 22421

Re: Urim and Thummim

" The Rabbis apparently feel that the Urim and Thummim were not around during the Second Temple. My guess is that any magical powers were added later." ...semiopen ***************** Perhaps they were indeed around during the Second Temple period. Supposedly only a high-priest of the right ...
by John T
Thu Mar 12, 2015 5:29 am
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Urim and Thummim
Replies: 20
Views: 22421

Re: Urim and Thummim

I find eight references to Urim and Thummim on the biblehub: http://biblehub.net/search.php?q=URIM I haven't given them much thought in about 15 years though. Seemed like a dead end at the time, as far as what the OT tells us. And since I don't remember what post-biblical writings say about them, y...
by John T
Thu Mar 12, 2015 5:06 am
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Urim and Thummim
Replies: 20
Views: 22421

Re: Urim and Thummim

Joseph talks about the Urim and Thummim in the Antiquities of the Jews and claims it was last used by ..." John Hycranus, whom Josephus esteemed as king, a priest, and a prophet; and who, he says, foretold several things that came to pass accordingly; but about the time of his death, he here im...
by John T
Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:55 am
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Urim and Thummim
Replies: 20
Views: 22421

Re: Urim and Thummim

When/where did Moses get the Urim and Thummim? Moses goes into great detail about how to construct the mercy seat and the breastpiece of judgment. The breastpiece of judgment is actually crafted with a secret pocket to hold the Urim and Thummim. Oddly, no details on how the make the Urim and Thummi...
by John T
Wed Mar 11, 2015 1:14 pm
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Urim and Thummim
Replies: 20
Views: 22421

Re: Urim and Thummim

When/where did Moses get the Urim and Thummim? Moses goes into great detail about how to construct the mercy seat and the breastpiece of judgment. The breastpiece of judgment is actually crafted with a secret pocket to hold the Urim and Thummim. Oddly, no details on how the make the Urim and Thummim...