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by Peter Kirby
Thu May 07, 2015 4:23 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: A Marcionite Antithesis behind Jesus Bar-Abbas?
Replies: 69
Views: 55625

Re: A Marcionite Antithesis behind Jesus Bar-Abbas?

Indeed, both Mcn and Mark lack the birth story, they are much shorter than all the others, have fewer oracles, but instead deeds of the Lord: these similiarities between them require an explanation. What explanation is being proposed? Honestly, as I've said before in this thread already, I know too...
by Peter Kirby
Thu May 07, 2015 3:56 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Scapegoat Sacrifice and the Crucifixion
Replies: 95
Views: 44088

Re: Scapegoat Sacrifice and the Crucifixion

Historism finds itself in a similar difficulty when its apologists try to argue that it is 'possible' or even likely that Jews could have accepted a man (= Jesus) as a God. Perhaps I should similarly label this 'white historicism.' Nevertheless white mythicists love to exploit implausible or unlike...
by Peter Kirby
Thu May 07, 2015 3:18 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Josephus' TF the source for Tacitus' reference to Jesus?
Replies: 70
Views: 32403

Re: Josephus' TF the source for Tacitus' reference to Jesus?

The presence in some versions of the TF of phrases like he was believed to be and they reported was what made me think that I was on to something with that kind of triangulation. But now I am not so sure. Incidentally this ties in to what I was saying about Tacitus and his naive pagan use of the wo...
by Peter Kirby
Thu May 07, 2015 3:11 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Gospel of Mark and Propp's Morphology
Replies: 40
Views: 25207

Re: Gospel of Mark and Propp's Morphology

Of course what I should clarify for any of us new to this whole morphology thing is that it is not the Russian folktale stories themselves that are being compared but the structures of the narratives. It's as much a study in anthropology as it is in literature, yes? Sure. If anyone is saying that i...
by Peter Kirby
Thu May 07, 2015 2:45 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Gospel of Mark and Propp's Morphology
Replies: 40
Views: 25207

Re: Gospel of Mark and Propp's Morphology

Russian folk-tales potentially have nothing to do with biblical narrative But don't they, potentially ? I think most of us are interested in what you can find and what it might really mean. But all of us should welcome the opportunity to take a step back and ask what has really been uncovered, if a...
by Peter Kirby
Thu May 07, 2015 1:12 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Scapegoat Sacrifice and the Crucifixion
Replies: 95
Views: 44088

Re: Scapegoat Sacrifice and the Crucifixion

It is not a matter of 'contradicting' one passage or another. There are references to Jesus being the Paschal lamb and other references to Jesus being the goat of Yom Kippur. The idea that Jesus' death provides an atonement or reconciliation of humankind with heaven (e.g., Romans 5:10) carries an e...
by Peter Kirby
Thu May 07, 2015 12:28 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: A Marcionite Antithesis behind Jesus Bar-Abbas?
Replies: 69
Views: 55625

Re: A Marcionite Antithesis behind Jesus Bar-Abbas?

The idea that even considering Marcionite-primacy is a 'waste of time' (to paraphrase Pete) It should already be clear, but I'll state the obvious: that is not what I said. The only thing I would say is a "waste of time" is any Synoptic solution that doesn't take Mcn into account at all. ...
by Peter Kirby
Wed May 06, 2015 5:22 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Georges Ory's Jesus Hypothesis
Replies: 20
Views: 22524

Re: Georges Ory's Jesus Hypothesis

Tenorikuma wrote:Here's a link to the book, if anyone's interested:

http://tinyurl.com/lkl5ewt
Thanks!
by Peter Kirby
Wed May 06, 2015 4:39 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Josephus' TF the source for Tacitus' reference to Jesus?
Replies: 70
Views: 32403

Re: Josephus' TF the source for Tacitus' reference to Jesus?

Ben C. Smith wrote:
Peter Kirby wrote:Yes, well, the whole thing is silly.
Yes, your opinion on the matter is clear enough, certainly.
Okay well maybe it isn't completely silly. YMMV. 8-)