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by Ken Olson
Fri Dec 23, 2022 6:04 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Matthean posteriority: Peter's parallel confession in Mark, Luke, Matthew and John
Replies: 16
Views: 974

Re: Matthean posteriority: Peter's parallel confession in Mark, Luke, Matthew and Joh

But Jesus, turning and looking at His disciples, rebuked Peter and said (καὶ λέγει) [καὶ λέγει to Satan? to His disciples? to Peter?] https://biblehub.com/greek/legei_3004.htm Is this ambiguity not very striking? Every other time Mark uses καὶ λέγει it is followed by an explicit indirect object (wh...
by Ken Olson
Wed Dec 14, 2022 8:04 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What if Josephus wrote the "Gospel of Mark "
Replies: 21
Views: 1487

Re: What if Josephus wrote the "Gospel of Mark "

I made a comment about this in ,the other thread about Roman Provenance, but wanted to call it out specifically here. I'm not saying I endorse this position, but I think it should really be given serious consideration. We know that Josephus was writing at the right time. We know he wrote in Greek. ...
by Ken Olson
Mon Dec 12, 2022 9:26 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Matthean Posteriority: "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem" (Did Lukan redaction influence Matthew 23:37?)
Replies: 29
Views: 2006

Re: Matthean Posteriority: "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem" (Did Lukan redaction influence Matthew 23:37?)

At min. 27:30f of this Mythvision interview, Allen Garrow talks about how Matthew changes Luke. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ataTSjxxVs Matt. is against luke's law free gospel, Matt. edits out female autonomy, Matt. addresses a male audience, a richer audience, Matt turns down the dial on sayin...
by Ken Olson
Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:07 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Matthean Posteriority: "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem" (Did Lukan redaction influence Matthew 23:37?)
Replies: 29
Views: 2006

Re: Matthean Posteriority: "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem" (Did Lukan redaction influence Matthew 23:37?)

At min. 56, Goodacre said: "What Allen Garrow says is that when Matthew is distracted by other material, you end up with lower verbatim agreement. That is a very important part of the NTS article..." Here is a quotation from the NTS article: "The Matthew Conflator Hypothesis(MCH)argu...
by Ken Olson
Sun Dec 11, 2022 8:56 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Matthean Posteriority: "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem" (Did Lukan redaction influence Matthew 23:37?)
Replies: 29
Views: 2006

Re: Matthean Posteriority: "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem" (Did Lukan redaction influence Matthew 23:37?)

. That doesn't seem so clear to me. What does 'that' refers to here? 1) I also think that Matthew's use of Ἰερουσαλήμ seems, at first glance, to be a good argument for his dependence on Luke. On the other hand, Paul proves that different usage can be meaningful and intentional, and Matthew could th...
by Ken Olson
Fri Dec 09, 2022 9:58 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Matthean Posteriority: "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem" (Did Lukan redaction influence Matthew 23:37?)
Replies: 29
Views: 2006

Re: Matthean Posteriority: "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem" (Luke 13:34–35 influenced Matthew 23:37–39)

Re: The shift in usage of both forms for Jerusalem in Luke-Acts "According to Wehnert, Die Reinheit, 34–35, the shift in usage of both forms for Jerusalem in Luke-Acts is not random. Luke always uses Ἰερουσαλὴµ in direct speeches that are delivered by Jews, followers of Jesus or so-called God-...
by Ken Olson
Fri Dec 09, 2022 9:00 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Matthean Posteriority: "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem" (Did Lukan redaction influence Matthew 23:37?)
Replies: 29
Views: 2006

Re: Matthean Posteriority: "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem" (Luke 13:34–35 influenced Matthew 23:37–39)

Re: The shift in usage of both forms for Jerusalem in Luke-Acts "According to Wehnert, Die Reinheit, 34–35, the shift in usage of both forms for Jerusalem in Luke-Acts is not random. Luke always uses Ἰερουσαλὴµ in direct speeches that are delivered by Jews, followers of Jesus or so-called God-...
by Ken Olson
Fri Dec 09, 2022 8:37 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Matthean Posteriority: "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem" (Did Lukan redaction influence Matthew 23:37?)
Replies: 29
Views: 2006

Re: Matthean Posteriority: "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem" (Luke 13:34–35 influenced Matthew 23:37–39)

And, Ken Olson, I see that you get into the weeds of Matthew's unusual usage here: "Ἱεροσόλυμα (Matt 11, Mark 9 , Luke 5, John 12, Acts 19; Gal 3) Ἰερουσαλὴμ (Matt 2, Mark 1 , Luke 27?, John 0, Acts 41?; Rom 4, 1 Cor 1, Gal. 2, Heb 1, Rev 3) Mark ( 10 ) and John used only Ἱεροσόλυμα. Mark 11:1...
by Ken Olson
Thu Dec 08, 2022 3:58 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Matthean Posteriority: "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem" (Did Lukan redaction influence Matthew 23:37?)
Replies: 29
Views: 2006

Re: Matthean Posteriority: "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem" (Luke 13:34–35 influenced Matthew 23:37–39)

On another note, Ken Olson, I noticed Goodacre mentioned an article that you wrote. Could you tell us a little about what that article said? Also, Goodacre said he didn't like characterizing the Farrer theory with a particular word he disliked. I couldn't tell what word he was saying. Somehow my so...
by Ken Olson
Thu Dec 08, 2022 12:22 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Matthean Posteriority: "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem" (Did Lukan redaction influence Matthew 23:37?)
Replies: 29
Views: 2006

Re: Matthean Posteriority: "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem" (Luke 13:34–35 influenced Matthew 23:37–39)

Re: Dr. Mark Goodacre shows his virtue as a dispassionate student of the evidence when he agrees with Dr. Robert K. MacEwen that this parallel points toward Matthean Posteriority. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VE5UOisT8AY Luke 13:34 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those ...