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- Fri Dec 23, 2022 6:04 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Matthean posteriority: Peter's parallel confession in Mark, Luke, Matthew and John
- Replies: 16
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Re: Matthean posteriority: Peter's parallel confession in Mark, Luke, Matthew and Joh
But Jesus, turning and looking at His disciples, rebuked Peter and said (καὶ λέγει) [καὶ λέγει to Satan? to His disciples? to Peter?] https://biblehub.com/greek/legei_3004.htm Is this ambiguity not very striking? Every other time Mark uses καὶ λέγει it is followed by an explicit indirect object (wh...
- Wed Dec 14, 2022 8:04 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: What if Josephus wrote the "Gospel of Mark "
- Replies: 21
- Views: 1487
Re: What if Josephus wrote the "Gospel of Mark "
I made a comment about this in ,the other thread about Roman Provenance, but wanted to call it out specifically here. I'm not saying I endorse this position, but I think it should really be given serious consideration. We know that Josephus was writing at the right time. We know he wrote in Greek. ...
- Mon Dec 12, 2022 9:26 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Matthean Posteriority: "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem" (Did Lukan redaction influence Matthew 23:37?)
- Replies: 29
- Views: 2006
Re: Matthean Posteriority: "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem" (Did Lukan redaction influence Matthew 23:37?)
At min. 27:30f of this Mythvision interview, Allen Garrow talks about how Matthew changes Luke. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ataTSjxxVs Matt. is against luke's law free gospel, Matt. edits out female autonomy, Matt. addresses a male audience, a richer audience, Matt turns down the dial on sayin...
- Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:07 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Matthean Posteriority: "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem" (Did Lukan redaction influence Matthew 23:37?)
- Replies: 29
- Views: 2006
Re: Matthean Posteriority: "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem" (Did Lukan redaction influence Matthew 23:37?)
At min. 56, Goodacre said: "What Allen Garrow says is that when Matthew is distracted by other material, you end up with lower verbatim agreement. That is a very important part of the NTS article..." Here is a quotation from the NTS article: "The Matthew Conflator Hypothesis(MCH)argu...
- Sun Dec 11, 2022 8:56 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Matthean Posteriority: "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem" (Did Lukan redaction influence Matthew 23:37?)
- Replies: 29
- Views: 2006
Re: Matthean Posteriority: "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem" (Did Lukan redaction influence Matthew 23:37?)
. That doesn't seem so clear to me. What does 'that' refers to here? 1) I also think that Matthew's use of Ἰερουσαλήμ seems, at first glance, to be a good argument for his dependence on Luke. On the other hand, Paul proves that different usage can be meaningful and intentional, and Matthew could th...
- Fri Dec 09, 2022 9:58 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Matthean Posteriority: "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem" (Did Lukan redaction influence Matthew 23:37?)
- Replies: 29
- Views: 2006
Re: Matthean Posteriority: "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem" (Luke 13:34–35 influenced Matthew 23:37–39)
Re: The shift in usage of both forms for Jerusalem in Luke-Acts "According to Wehnert, Die Reinheit, 34–35, the shift in usage of both forms for Jerusalem in Luke-Acts is not random. Luke always uses Ἰερουσαλὴµ in direct speeches that are delivered by Jews, followers of Jesus or so-called God-...
- Fri Dec 09, 2022 9:00 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Matthean Posteriority: "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem" (Did Lukan redaction influence Matthew 23:37?)
- Replies: 29
- Views: 2006
Re: Matthean Posteriority: "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem" (Luke 13:34–35 influenced Matthew 23:37–39)
Re: The shift in usage of both forms for Jerusalem in Luke-Acts "According to Wehnert, Die Reinheit, 34–35, the shift in usage of both forms for Jerusalem in Luke-Acts is not random. Luke always uses Ἰερουσαλὴµ in direct speeches that are delivered by Jews, followers of Jesus or so-called God-...
- Fri Dec 09, 2022 8:37 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Matthean Posteriority: "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem" (Did Lukan redaction influence Matthew 23:37?)
- Replies: 29
- Views: 2006
Re: Matthean Posteriority: "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem" (Luke 13:34–35 influenced Matthew 23:37–39)
And, Ken Olson, I see that you get into the weeds of Matthew's unusual usage here: "Ἱεροσόλυμα (Matt 11, Mark 9 , Luke 5, John 12, Acts 19; Gal 3) Ἰερουσαλὴμ (Matt 2, Mark 1 , Luke 27?, John 0, Acts 41?; Rom 4, 1 Cor 1, Gal. 2, Heb 1, Rev 3) Mark ( 10 ) and John used only Ἱεροσόλυμα. Mark 11:1...
- Thu Dec 08, 2022 3:58 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Matthean Posteriority: "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem" (Did Lukan redaction influence Matthew 23:37?)
- Replies: 29
- Views: 2006
Re: Matthean Posteriority: "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem" (Luke 13:34–35 influenced Matthew 23:37–39)
On another note, Ken Olson, I noticed Goodacre mentioned an article that you wrote. Could you tell us a little about what that article said? Also, Goodacre said he didn't like characterizing the Farrer theory with a particular word he disliked. I couldn't tell what word he was saying. Somehow my so...
- Thu Dec 08, 2022 12:22 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Matthean Posteriority: "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem" (Did Lukan redaction influence Matthew 23:37?)
- Replies: 29
- Views: 2006
Re: Matthean Posteriority: "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem" (Luke 13:34–35 influenced Matthew 23:37–39)
Re: Dr. Mark Goodacre shows his virtue as a dispassionate student of the evidence when he agrees with Dr. Robert K. MacEwen that this parallel points toward Matthean Posteriority. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VE5UOisT8AY Luke 13:34 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those ...