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by Kapyong
Wed Dec 04, 2013 5:21 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Nailed: 10 Christian myths that show Jesus never existed
Replies: 107
Views: 146754

Re: Nailed: 10 Christian myths that show Jesus never existed

Gday Bernard, A few things I overlooked in Kapyong's post: These do seem to argue against a mythical Jesus, but they are, as you say, 'bits and pieces' - unclear and controversial. I think it is clear enough and the controversy comes from mythicists who cannot accept them because, by definition, the...
by Kapyong
Wed Dec 04, 2013 5:13 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Nailed: 10 Christian myths that show Jesus never existed
Replies: 107
Views: 146754

Re: Nailed: 10 Christian myths that show Jesus never existed

Gday Bernard, Doherty is not God and the final Word. In Galatians 4:29 Darby "But as then he [Ishmael] that was born according to flesh ['kata sarka', through human "fleshly" nature, and without God's help] persecuted him [Isaac] [that was born] according to Spirit ['kata pneuma', wit...
by Kapyong
Mon Dec 02, 2013 6:04 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Nailed: 10 Christian myths that show Jesus never existed
Replies: 107
Views: 146754

Re: Nailed: 10 Christian myths that show Jesus never existed

Gday Beowulf, The crucifixion of Jesus was an event of no importance for his contemporaries but 2000 years of history have shown this “ crossing of the Rubicon” to be far more significant and real than the life of little Cesar. I would say only BELIEF in that "crossing" of Jesus is needed ...
by Kapyong
Mon Dec 02, 2013 6:01 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Nailed: 10 Christian myths that show Jesus never existed
Replies: 107
Views: 146754

Re: Nailed: 10 Christian myths that show Jesus never existed

Gday Andrew, The issue surely is not whether Caesar and his army physically crossed the Rubicon. The interesting issue is whether the traditional account of the crossing, (i.e. that Caesar openly acknowledged at the time of the crossing that to cross the river was to pass the point of no return), is...
by Kapyong
Mon Dec 02, 2013 5:55 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Nailed: 10 Christian myths that show Jesus never existed
Replies: 107
Views: 146754

Re: Nailed: 10 Christian myths that show Jesus never existed

Gday again, Someone hostile to Christianity recorded Jesus's crucifixion occurred in 21 CE not 29 or 30 CE. This is perhaps the most difficult piece of evidence for the mythicist position - the narrative being taken as historical (at least to some degree) by the opponents of Christianity as early as...
by Kapyong
Mon Dec 02, 2013 5:49 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Nailed: 10 Christian myths that show Jesus never existed
Replies: 107
Views: 146754

Re: Nailed: 10 Christian myths that show Jesus never existed

Gday, Either the Marcionites were first or second. If they were first then all that I said above. If they were second then you have a gospel narrative dated to the fifteenth of Tiberius involving a man named Jesus with a mother named Mary who was nailed to a cross and whose body was touched by his d...
by Kapyong
Mon Dec 02, 2013 5:34 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Nailed: 10 Christian myths that show Jesus never existed
Replies: 107
Views: 146754

Re: Nailed: 10 Christian myths that show Jesus never existed

Gday Bernard, Thanks for your detailed response, I will deal with Paul here : Myth 8: Paul & his epistles do corroborate small parts of gMark, through bits and pieces: When eyewitnesses were still alive, Paul wrote about a minimal Jesus (but also, for Paul, pre/post-existent as a heavenly deity)...
by Kapyong
Sun Dec 01, 2013 9:18 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Nailed: 10 Christian myths that show Jesus never existed
Replies: 107
Views: 146754

Re: Nailed: 10 Christian myths that show Jesus never existed

Gday again, A comment on Myth 1 - Comparing Jesus resurrection to Caesar's crossing of the Rubicon - a popular internet meme lately - Fitzgerald says : First, we have Caesar's own account (not directly we don't - Caesar's account does not specifically refer to the Rubicon - but at one stage in his a...
by Kapyong
Sun Dec 01, 2013 9:16 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Nailed: 10 Christian myths that show Jesus never existed
Replies: 107
Views: 146754

Re: Nailed: 10 Christian myths that show Jesus never existed

Greetings Stephan, Thanks for your insightful response :-) I am not a full bottle on the Marcionites, so pardon me if I ask some basic questions. I don't think it is so easy either way. Take 8. Paul and the epistles corroborate the Gospels. The Marcionites and other heretics said that Paul wrote the...
by Kapyong
Sun Dec 01, 2013 7:36 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Nailed: 10 Christian myths that show Jesus never existed
Replies: 107
Views: 146754

Nailed: 10 Christian myths that show Jesus never existed

Greetings all, A recent short book summarises the Jesus Myth theory by listing 10 myths about Christianity that turn out not to be true. That book is : "Nailed - 10 Christian Myths that show Jesus never existed at all." by David Fitzgerald. Earl Doherty says of this book : "Fitzgerald...