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by Irish1975
Sat Dec 11, 2021 8:14 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Is Romans 9:5 a late catholic interpolation?
Replies: 42
Views: 8385

Re: Is Romans 9:5 a late catholic interpolation?

On "all" Cf. Heb 2:9 "But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels, now crowned with glory and honor because He suffered death, so that apart from God He might taste death for all ." (note the textual variant "apart from" is preferred to "by the g...
by Irish1975
Sat Dec 11, 2021 7:41 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Is Romans 9:5 a late catholic interpolation?
Replies: 42
Views: 8385

Re: Is Romans 9:5 a late catholic interpolation?

The following passage from 1 Corinthians 15 (especially vv. 27-28) is valuable evidence that, in the genuine Pauline theology, Christ is not understood to be "God over all" (ἐπὶ πάντων θεὸς) in the same sense as God the Father. The one who has died and been raised from the dead, and to who...
by Irish1975
Fri Dec 10, 2021 12:25 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Is Romans 9:5 a late catholic interpolation?
Replies: 42
Views: 8385

Is Romans 9:5 a late catholic interpolation?

What the words of Romans 9:5 even say is controversial for a few reasons: It has Paul acclaiming Christ as God, which he does nowhere else; it is the only direct Pauline affirmation of Jesus as the Jewish messiah (albeit τὸ κατὰ σάρκα); and the sequence of ideas is garbled and abrupt (e.g., εὐλογητὸ...
by Irish1975
Fri Dec 10, 2021 10:10 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: First Corinthians 10 (and just a bit of 11)
Replies: 13
Views: 2776

Re: First Corinthians 10 (and just a bit of 11)

Ken, I wonder whether you acknowledge (1) actual contradictions in "authentic Paul," not just confusions or difficulties; and (2) any probable interpolations. If you're not willing to entertain those possibilities, then you and I will not agree about what the texts actually say. That's how...
by Irish1975
Thu Dec 09, 2021 8:55 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Messiah != Son of God
Replies: 83
Views: 35894

Re: Messiah != Son of God

In my opinion, the AV is a translation from the Greek.
by Irish1975
Mon Dec 06, 2021 8:49 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Jesus was Famous Because He was Alleged to Have Said 'I will destroy [the temple of Jerusalem]' Before 70 CE
Replies: 11
Views: 2282

Re: Jesus was Famous Because He was Alleged to Have Said 'I will destroy [the temple of Jerusalem]'

What exactly did Jesus do or say against the Temple, and why would it have mattered to anyone? I refuse to believe that the “cleansing” episode was any kind of threat, if one can even believe it. And prophesying “the day will come…” is just standard prophetic invective against Jerusalem going back m...
by Irish1975
Sat Dec 04, 2021 8:28 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Listing of all references to the Jewish scriptures in Paul?
Replies: 6
Views: 1431

Re: Listing of all references to the Jewish scriptures in Paul?

It’s important to keep in mind that “all references” can mean different things, depending on how one approaches the use of OT scripture in the Pauline Corpus. (I, for one, would not trust just any traditional NT scholar’s accounting of such references. What one looks for is dependent on one’s assump...
by Irish1975
Fri Dec 03, 2021 2:50 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 1 Cor 10:20, “they sacrifice to demons”
Replies: 60
Views: 12429

Re: 1 Cor 10:20, “they sacrifice to demons”

DCH,

Thank you for this post. I especially appreciate the care and attention you give to the LXX quotations and allusions.
by Irish1975
Thu Dec 02, 2021 9:39 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Did early Christians Worship Openly or Secretly?
Replies: 5
Views: 1204

Re: Did early Christians Worship Openly or Secretly?

2 Corinthians 5:11-15 probably says something about (a) Paul’s ecstatic mode of worship, and (b) how it was in those “channeling” experiences that he both received and delivered the belief in the central mystery of Christ worship, i.e. the redemptive death and resurrection of Christ: Therefore, know...
by Irish1975
Thu Dec 02, 2021 9:01 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Two kinds of flesh/two kinds of righteousness (Exegeting the implicit distinctions of Gal 2:15-16)
Replies: 8
Views: 2601

Re: Two kinds of flesh/two kinds of righteousness (Exegeting the implicit distinctions of Gal 2:15-16)

Is this Dunn’s translation? “The faithfulness of JC” is overtly a “subjective genitive” reading of πίστις Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ, as though Paul were invoking a faith once held by the man Jesus of Nazareth. But this interpretation has no basis in the theology of Galatians, where the apostle is clearly only i...