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by Bernard Muller
Fri Jul 25, 2014 8:17 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: On dating the Gospels late e.g. 120CE
Replies: 600
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Re: On dating the Gospels late e.g. 120CE

to Stephan, So you're just old. The same applies for old people of any generation. Narrow minded old man. And French from where? Alsace Lorraine? That was German. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... error.html. But still old people exhibit stubbornness from all places Yes, now you are starti...
by Bernard Muller
Fri Jul 25, 2014 7:56 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: On dating the Gospels late e.g. 120CE
Replies: 600
Views: 249256

Re: On dating the Gospels late e.g. 120CE

to Neil, The funny side to this is that if you, Bernard, were not so agenda-driven yourself and if you did not have such predictable knee-jerk reactions to anything I write, you could possibly have noticed that with the arguments I have presented here for the Gospel of Mark is a very strong case for...
by Bernard Muller
Fri Jul 25, 2014 7:35 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: On dating the Gospels late e.g. 120CE
Replies: 600
Views: 249256

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to Kapyong, But I doubt a late Gospel case will convince anyone - seriously - it's a foil. Are you sure? if that case won't convince anyone, why most who indicated their views on the matter are finding excuses to shoot down the internal & external evidence against gospels dated in the 1st centur...
by Bernard Muller
Fri Jul 25, 2014 7:19 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: On dating the Gospels late e.g. 120CE
Replies: 600
Views: 249256

Re: On dating the Gospels late e.g. 120CE

to Kapyong, Initially I went along with your view, but as problems appeared with it, (yes, problems brought up by others) I changed my mind. There is a fundamental problem with your methodology - apocalyptic writings set in a another period is quite a common thing. So what's the consequence about gM...
by Bernard Muller
Fri Jul 25, 2014 7:05 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: On dating the Gospels late e.g. 120CE
Replies: 600
Views: 249256

Re: On dating the Gospels late e.g. 120CE

You obviously don't know many German people. It isn't just a racial thing. I was told by a Jewish lady I knew a funny story about an old German Jewish survivor who ran a Kibbutz. When my friend Heidi got to the kibbutz the German (Jewish) lady told her how to lay each table down to the correct way ...
by Bernard Muller
Thu Jul 24, 2014 10:17 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: On dating the Gospels late e.g. 120CE
Replies: 600
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Re: On dating the Gospels late e.g. 120CE

to Neil, But did you read Daniel 2, 7, 8, 9, 11, too? The victory of the Maccabees in Daniel 7 is also set in the future tense -- in clouds and heavenly thrones. But we know that Daniel was writing about that victory with apocalyptic symbolism as a future event -- future because the character of Dan...
by Bernard Muller
Thu Jul 24, 2014 8:51 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: On dating the Gospels late e.g. 120CE
Replies: 600
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Re: On dating the Gospels late e.g. 120CE

"Fact". No room for any doubt in anything you have worked out years ago and written in stone on your website. So Mark who quotes and alludes to Isaiah and Daniel throughout suddenly takes their metaphors and tribulation imagery and declares that they will no longer be metaphors but litera...
by Bernard Muller
Thu Jul 24, 2014 8:26 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: On dating the Gospels late e.g. 120CE
Replies: 600
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Re: On dating the Gospels late e.g. 120CE

to Kapyong, This is ridiculous. 2. Both you and Neil Godfrey are critical of this one - I'll take it out. So Neil and theomise, in a few words disagree with me, with some so-called evidence or none, two against one, and then you flip flop. Why don't you put that in a poll. People will vote according...
by Bernard Muller
Thu Jul 24, 2014 7:53 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: On dating the Gospels late e.g. 120CE
Replies: 600
Views: 249256

Re: On dating the Gospels late e.g. 120CE

to Neil, There are many references to apocalyptic literature. I cannot off-hand single out any one. But it is widely understood that apocalyptic literature is an attempt to give meaning to past events known to readers/hearers and it does this by creating prophetic scenarios prior to those events. Ye...
by Bernard Muller
Thu Jul 24, 2014 5:35 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: On dating the Gospels late e.g. 120CE
Replies: 600
Views: 249256

Re: On dating the Gospels late e.g. 120CE

to Neil, Yes Matthew does testify to rivalry between Pharisees/rabbis and Christians in the late first century but we cannot extrapolate from that that the Pharisees were as early as that turning "Judaism" into something akin to what we understand by "rabbinic Judaism". "Jud...