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- Wed Nov 13, 2013 3:13 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: the disciples were first called Chrestians (not Christians)
- Replies: 121
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Re: the disciples were first called Chrestians (not Christia
What the text did not contain is "χρηϲτιανοϲ." Of this we can be fairly certain. That's Greek. haha. Very good!.. Unfortunately, however, I was responding to the OP, not to the diversion about Tacitus, whose original text is claimed, without evidence, to have been written in Latin. I doub...
- Wed Nov 13, 2013 2:06 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: the disciples were first called Chrestians (not Christians)
- Replies: 121
- Views: 153526
Re: the disciples were first called Chrestians (not Christia
That's from Mediaeval Latin "Chrestianus". The Medicee Tacitus was copied in the 11th century when the form was in vogue. This means we have no idea what the earliest form of the word really was. It has certainly been changed from "Chrestianos" to "Christianos". Howeve...
- Mon Nov 11, 2013 1:28 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Debut of Chester Beatty Papyri images online
- Replies: 7
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Re: Debut of Chester Beatty Papyri images online
Thank you Diogenes the Cynic, your link to this valuable resource is much appreciated. I am looking at Papyrus P45, from the Chester Beatty collection Mark 6:36-50 (partial). As David noted, it is not easily magnified, therefore a bit difficult to compare with other online resources, which, as a rul...
- Tue Nov 05, 2013 4:09 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: A Critique of Theological Palaeography
- Replies: 14
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Re: A Critique of Theological Palaeography
I am impressed that even such competent scholars as these two, uncritically accept the dogma, that P24 from Dura Europos, had been buried prior to the Persian attack, circa 260 CE.
No quarrel with their conclusion about the dates being too early for most of these (non-existent) manuscripts.
No quarrel with their conclusion about the dates being too early for most of these (non-existent) manuscripts.
- Tue Nov 05, 2013 3:58 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Facts, Fiction, and Wishful thinking....
- Replies: 21
- Views: 37196
Re: Facts, Fiction, and Wishful thinking....
Nobody can be completely certain in these issues. Well, I think that is quite right, Pete, for these issues which are so muddled. But, even something like Newton, or Time, or Fourier Transform, one goes along for decades, thinking xyz, and all of a sudden, poof: old theorem/brilliant idea goes out ...
- Mon Nov 04, 2013 7:36 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: the disciples were first called Chrestians (not Christians)
- Replies: 121
- Views: 153526
Re: the disciples were first called Chrestians (not Christia
You are retrojecting a modern Anglo-Saxon misunderstanding of the use of writing onto the past. sigh. One projects into the past, present, or future. One does not "retroject" while engaged in cogitation, or any other mental process. Here's a simple example. Watch a skillful basketball pla...
- Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:44 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: earliest MS of Justin Martyr found
- Replies: 11
- Views: 24326
Re: earliest MS of Justin Martyr found
Thank you Roger. I guess you are referring to Poxy 405, however, I have not found a link to the text itself, nor a photograph of the papyrus, nor an explanation of the text, e.g. whether it is a copy of the Greek, or Latin version. Date: I don't know how the date of P 405 was established, nor do I k...
- Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:29 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Textual Criticism of Romans 16
- Replies: 47
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Re: Textual Criticism of Romans 16
And just think, the only reason we know this about the Marcionite text is because of Jerome's decision to reuse a now lost work of Origen. I acknowledge, candidly, without rancor, that I cannot understand how this sentence relates to spin's question to Bernard. I also don't understand, (to me, the ...
- Thu Oct 31, 2013 1:50 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: earliest MS of Justin Martyr found
- Replies: 11
- Views: 24326
Re: earliest MS of Justin Martyr found
This fragment is only 6 lines, from 1Apol 50-51. But it's still 1,000 years older than previously known. Appreciate your input, here. Thanks Roger. But, isn't it even MORE amazing, when we consider these various Greek authors, going back say, to Plato, and lots of authors of drama, comedy on stage,...
- Thu Oct 31, 2013 7:03 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Facts, Fiction, and Wishful thinking....
- Replies: 21
- Views: 37196
Re: Facts, Fiction, and Wishful thinking....
The fact that the early (mid 3rd century) dating of Dura Parchment 24 may not implicitly rely on palaeographic assessment alone (as does all other manuscript evidence) mitigates towards a possibility that if we are dealing with a single-story source, it's origins may have been in the east. The orig...