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by MrMacSon
Sun Dec 13, 2015 4:38 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Carrier proposes the NT Jesus based on Philo's Jesus angel
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Re: Carrier proposes the NT Jesus based on Philo's Jesus ang

to MrMacSon, Hear now, [Jeshua] the high priest, thou, and thy neighbours that are sitting before thee: for they are diviners, for, behold, I bring forth my servant The Branch. The text says God is bringing forth his servant the Branch for Jeshua the High Priest, and the neighbours sitting before h...
by MrMacSon
Sun Dec 13, 2015 4:31 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Carrier proposes the NT Jesus based on Philo's Jesus angel
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Views: 522552

Re: Carrier proposes the NT Jesus based on Philo's Jesus ang

It is also unproven some Jews, before Christianity began, connected Jesus, son of Josedec, to Philo's incorporeal being, the eldest Son of God. Probably the majority of Jews, but that is beside the point. Whether some did make the connection, particularly whether some commenting on scripture did. t...
by MrMacSon
Sun Dec 13, 2015 12:19 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Carrier proposes the NT Jesus based on Philo's Jesus angel
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Re: Carrier proposes the NT Jesus based on Philo's Jesus ang

Why am I going to entertain the merits of eating feces when shit stinks? Demonstrate to me that the core argument that Philo learned from the LXX of Zechariah that Jesus the high priest was the anatole and I will follow you down these various tangential rabbit holes. Philo: ON THE CONFUSION OF TONG...
by MrMacSon
Sun Dec 13, 2015 12:04 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Carrier proposes the NT Jesus based on Philo's Jesus angel
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Re: Carrier proposes the NT Jesus based on Philo's Jesus ang

In Zechariah 6:11-13 the High Priest Joshua is symbolically crowned, and hailed as 'the Branch' (tsemach, a Messianic title derived from Je 23:5 = 33:15; cf. Is 4:2), and it is predicted that he will build the Temple, and bear royal office, supported by a priestly figure. Joshua is thus set up as a...
by MrMacSon
Sun Dec 13, 2015 11:58 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Carrier proposes the NT Jesus based on Philo's Jesus angel
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Re: Carrier proposes the NT Jesus based on Philo's Jesus ang

So basically when objections are raised all these 'online personalities' disappear for a few days. They try to change the topic. Then when that fails they post long sections of text to 'turn the page' in the discussion quite literally. Then the go back to 'delighting' in various tangents which sust...
by MrMacSon
Sun Dec 13, 2015 11:53 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Carrier proposes the NT Jesus based on Philo's Jesus angel
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Re: Carrier proposes the NT Jesus based on Philo's Jesus ang

lololol all the hand-waving and obfuscation. The fallacies. Without engaging in the arguments.
by MrMacSon
Sun Dec 13, 2015 11:50 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Carrier proposes the NT Jesus based on Philo's Jesus angel
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Re: Carrier proposes the NT Jesus based on Philo's Jesus ang

There is more to this than just what Philo might have been thinking, and what others think Philo might have been thinking.

There is, more widely, the role of OT texts such as Zechariah as the basis of NT narratives.
by MrMacSon
Sun Dec 13, 2015 11:36 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Carrier proposes the NT Jesus based on Philo's Jesus angel
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Re: Carrier proposes the NT Jesus based on Philo's Jesus ang

... it might help to consider this passage from the LXX Zech 2 : 10 - 13 10 Rejoice and be glad, O daughter of Sion: for, behold, I come, and will dwell in the midst of thee, saith the Lord. 11 And many nations shall flee for refuge to the Lord in that day, and they shall be for a people to him, an...
by MrMacSon
Sun Dec 13, 2015 11:18 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Carrier proposes the NT Jesus based on Philo's Jesus angel
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Views: 522552

Re: Carrier proposes the NT Jesus based on Philo's Jesus ang

Philo refers to this character, the Branch, and the name attached to that character is Jesus, the High Priest. ... as Doherty himself (diplomatically) declared: "By the way, on Richard Carrier’s Logos as Jesus ... One can make that link through rather indirect channels ..." . It is also u...