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by MrMacSon
Wed Mar 09, 2016 8:44 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Nomina Sacra ...
Replies: 11
Views: 5383

Re: Nomina Sacra ...

Christ from XS (or XRS) ... The code for Christ is XS or sometimes XRS, which could as well indicate Christos, or even Chrestos. In Coptic it looks like this: XC, with a bar over the letters. X is the Greek letter chi and C is the Coptic S. Scholars fill in XC so that it reads “Christ,” never “Chri...
by MrMacSon
Wed Mar 09, 2016 8:24 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Nomina Sacra ...
Replies: 11
Views: 5383

Re: Nomina Sacra ...

The early use of "nomina sacra" indicates a canon was recognized 1. The external identifying characteristics of the witnesses to the text of the Christian Bible -- the types of abbreviation of the nomina sacra , use of the codex, a common pattern of names for the individual books ("G...
by MrMacSon
Wed Mar 09, 2016 8:08 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Nomina Sacra ...
Replies: 11
Views: 5383

Re: Nomina Sacra ...

The “nomina sacra“, a set of words given special treatment by copyists in ancient Christian manuscripts, continues to be a subject of debate about what the practice signifies and how it originated. The words in question are written in a unique abbreviated form with a curious horizontal stroke place...
by MrMacSon
Wed Mar 09, 2016 8:08 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Nomina Sacra ...
Replies: 11
Views: 5383

Nomina Sacra ...

. Could Nomina Sacra* hide the origins or etymology of at least some of the words that Nomina Sacra replaced or are intended to mean? Could they have been used to conflate words with similar form, but different meanings, to be presented as one word (wittingly or unwittingly) ?? eg. Χριστός (Christó...
by MrMacSon
Wed Mar 09, 2016 5:56 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Ehrman's Adoptionist Theory and Christ Mythicism
Replies: 132
Views: 78461

Re: Ehrman's Adoptionist Theory and Christ Mythicism

I found the following on my computer that compares "Jesus Christ" with "Christ Jesus", probably based on the RSV, which follows Nestle-Aland GNT as opposed to the Majority or Byzantine textual reconstructions: .... I subtotaled the relative proportions to illustrate the real dif...
by MrMacSon
Wed Mar 09, 2016 3:12 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Oh, no! Not another thread about Richard Carrier!
Replies: 28
Views: 15651

Re: Oh, no! Not another thread about Richard Carrier!

TedM wrote:...I welcome any discussion between Ben and Bernard ...
I think such a discussion would be interesting as long as Bernard does not revert to linking to his website, and provides his propositions and arguments fully within his posts to such a discussion on this forum.
by MrMacSon
Wed Mar 09, 2016 3:06 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Matthean Priority or Markan Priority?
Replies: 52
Views: 22201

Re: Matthean Priority or Markan Priority?

... the Gospels ...came to be known / associated with the four evangelists, they came to be known that way by the second century, and as far as we know there was never any alternative attribution offered for any of them. Good point. But I wouldn't say that's "a strong and early tradition ...&q...
by MrMacSon
Wed Mar 09, 2016 2:00 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Which is older, the Christ cult or the Jesus cult?
Replies: 18
Views: 11524

Re: Which is older, the Christ cult or the Jesus cult?

Many will come in my name, saying I am Christ, and will deceive many. This commentary notes that 'Christ' in Greek means 'anointed' (well, one version - Χριστός (Christós) - does) - So these false prophets who Jesus is warning about are not saying, "I am Jesus." They are saying what most ...
by MrMacSon
Wed Mar 09, 2016 1:48 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Oh, no! Not another thread about Richard Carrier!
Replies: 28
Views: 15651

Re: Oh, no! Not another thread about Richard Carrier!

outhouse wrote: I like ...a Galilean Aramaic Jew who was taught by John and took over his movement when he was murdered ...
I presume you mean John the Baptist .. with John the Apostle being a different John (+/- other Johns)
by MrMacSon
Wed Mar 09, 2016 1:31 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Which is older, the Christ cult or the Jesus cult?
Replies: 18
Views: 11524

Re: Which is older, the Christ cult or the Jesus cult?

Many will come in my name, saying I am Christ, and will deceive many. Is Jesus saying what we have been conditioned to believe him to be saying here, or is he saying nigh on the opposite? i.e., is he denying that he is the Christ? It's repeated in Matt 24:5, Mark 13:6,, & Luke 21:8. I take it t...