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- Mon Oct 02, 2017 11:35 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: 1st & 2nd C writers who missed Christianity
- Replies: 74
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Re: 1st & 2nd C writers who missed Christianity
Michael Stone has a new book on early Christianity as a secret society. I haven't read the book yet but I've read a lot about it. Celsus confirms this suggestion. But this changes the 'appropriateness' of knowledge of the tradition among contemporary witnesses. The closest example I can think of is ...
- Sun Oct 01, 2017 7:15 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Didn't Know This Was Controversial - Schools Get Rid of BC and AD
- Replies: 37
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Re: Didn't Know This Was Controversial - Schools Get Rid of BC and AD
Piers Morgan is the editor of this paper and a Trumpite. They're always trying to stir up the old people.
- Sun Oct 01, 2017 5:33 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Didn't Know This Was Controversial - Schools Get Rid of BC and AD
- Replies: 37
- Views: 31244
- Sun Oct 01, 2017 8:36 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Quesionting Justin Martyr's Knowledge of the Canonical Gospels
- Replies: 51
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Re: Quesionting Justin Martyr's Knowledge of the Canonical Gospels
I have always consider the remarkable understanding (and connection with Justin's words) found in Clement's To Theodore too brilliant for a modern scholar like Morton Smith. Clement here says that the gospel of Mark was written from two sets of hypomnemata - a remarkable coincidence with Justin's se...
- Sun Oct 01, 2017 8:30 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Quesionting Justin Martyr's Knowledge of the Canonical Gospels
- Replies: 51
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Re: Quesionting Justin Martyr's Knowledge of the Canonical Gospels
The question for me has always been - if these texts described as 'hypomnemata' by Justin were the only versions of the gospel(s) known to Justin would he have described as such - viz. would he have called them 'hypomnemata'? This applies also for Hegesippus's work. When Josephus makes reference or ...
- Sun Oct 01, 2017 8:20 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Quesionting Justin Martyr's Knowledge of the Canonical Gospels
- Replies: 51
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Re: Quesionting Justin Martyr's Knowledge of the Canonical Gospels
Another meaning, which I have considered many times of the years, is that Justin knew there was something of an 'orthodox' or standardized text(s) of the gospel and Justin preferred a more primitive (in appearance at least) version of the gospel which he claimed stood behind this standardized text(s...
- Sun Oct 01, 2017 8:16 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Quesionting Justin Martyr's Knowledge of the Canonical Gospels
- Replies: 51
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Re: Quesionting Justin Martyr's Knowledge of the Canonical Gospels
Consider the use of the terminology here - http://papyri.info/ddbdp/p.cair.zen;3;59377 Could the term have been meant in the sense of 'summary' - the original sense of 'harmony' (viz. a summary because of harmonization of early sources)?
- Sun Oct 01, 2017 8:11 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Quesionting Justin Martyr's Knowledge of the Canonical Gospels
- Replies: 51
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Re: Quesionting Justin Martyr's Knowledge of the Canonical Gospels
Hypomnema could also be used in the sense of 'unfinished (work), notes' - not necessarily a memoir strictly speaking (or as I understand the term - perhaps incorrectly) but simply something short of a polished text. Perhaps - and again this is speculation - the fact that the text was transcribed in ...
- Sat Sep 30, 2017 12:05 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: 2nd Century Mentions of Mark
- Replies: 66
- Views: 33514
Re: 2nd Century Mentions of Mark
Would Justin have recognized his own source as a 'gospel harmony'? Certainly not. Even modern scholars see the "harmonization" of Deuteronomy and Exodus in Qumran fragments and Samaritan Exodus as "harmonization." Our collective or inherited version of things is always "the...
- Sat Sep 30, 2017 11:07 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: 2nd Century Mentions of Mark
- Replies: 66
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Re: 2nd Century Mentions of Mark
But we should always distinguish between 1. the citation of Markan material (i.e. material known to us from the 'Mark-part' of the four gospel canonical set) and 2. explicit citation that the material in question comes from a gospel named Mark according to the early Patristic witness Justin, for exa...