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by Secret Alias
Tue Nov 15, 2016 9:04 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Did Epiphanius Identify James as the Naked from Hegesippus?
Replies: 21
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Re: Did Epiphanius Identify James as the Naked from Hegesipp

In Hegesippus we see James "did not use the bath. He alone was permitted to enter into the holy place." This is clearly derived from the Gospel according to the Hebrews cited by Jerome. In Epiphanius it is the same structure but another gospel passage is cited - a passage from the canonica...
by Secret Alias
Tue Nov 15, 2016 8:52 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Did Epiphanius Identify James as the Naked from Hegesippus?
Replies: 21
Views: 9179

Re: Did Epiphanius Identify James as the Naked from Hegesipp

It is also interesting that Epiphanius has the same habit of citing material from Hegesippus TWO TIMES in the Panarion. We wouldn't know that he was citing Hegesippus here or during the discussion of Marcellina coming to Rome. But it is uncanny that he goes back both times in order to cite the mater...
by Secret Alias
Tue Nov 15, 2016 8:48 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Results of Previous Studies of Marcion Are Worthless
Replies: 160
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Re: The Results of Previous Studies of Marcion Are Worthless

It's more than Evans. Here's Dunn: Justin, Dialogue with Trypho 78.10, reports this transfer of Damascus from Arabia to Syrophoenicia, but without indicating that it happened when Syria was split into two. Herodian 2.7.4 reports that Pescennius Niger was governor of the whole province in 193. It was...
by Secret Alias
Tue Nov 15, 2016 6:34 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Did Epiphanius Identify James as the Naked from Hegesippus?
Replies: 21
Views: 9179

Re: Did Epiphanius Identify James as the Naked from Hegesipp

Andrew, I don't think Epiphanius is saying the naked youth is like James. Epiphanius is saying the naked youth is James.
by Secret Alias
Tue Nov 15, 2016 4:42 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Did Epiphanius Identify James as the Naked from Hegesippus?
Replies: 21
Views: 9179

Re: Did Epiphanius Identify James as the Naked from Hegesipp

Hegesippus (in Eusebius): James, the brother of the Lord, succeeded to the government of the Church in conjunction with the apostles. He has been called the Just by all from the time of our Saviour to the present day; for there were many that bore the name of James. He was holy from his mother's wom...
by Secret Alias
Tue Nov 15, 2016 1:33 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Results of Previous Studies of Marcion Are Worthless
Replies: 160
Views: 57372

Re: The Results of Previous Studies of Marcion Are Worthless

Yes Irenaeus and his backdating in Justin (cf Evans evidence for manipulation of Justin's works c. 196 CE i.e. the time of Irenaeus) are the start of 'Marcion.'
by Secret Alias
Tue Nov 15, 2016 1:13 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Did Epiphanius Identify James as the Naked from Hegesippus?
Replies: 21
Views: 9179

Re: Did Epiphanius Identify James as the Naked from Hegesipp

In the Chronicle (Armenian version) Eusebius records the martyrdom of Symeon, the martyrdom of Ignatius, and Pliny's trials of the Christians between the tenth and the eleventh years of Trajan's reign - c. 107/108 CE. As Hegesippus identifies Symeon as 120 when he died he was born c. 12 BCE. This is...
by Secret Alias
Tue Nov 15, 2016 12:55 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Did Epiphanius Identify James as the Naked from Hegesippus?
Replies: 21
Views: 9179

Re: Did Epiphanius Identify James as the Naked from Hegesipp

And I see no evidence of James's age from the material cited from Hegesippus. Do you have something?
by Secret Alias
Tue Nov 15, 2016 12:52 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Did Epiphanius Identify James as the Naked from Hegesippus?
Replies: 21
Views: 9179

Re: Did Epiphanius Identify James as the Naked from Hegesipp

But as we have seen Hegesippus used the gospel according to the Hebrews. Epiphanius is directing his readers to the passage in their gospel. It might not have specifically identified him as a 'youth.'
by Secret Alias
Tue Nov 15, 2016 12:44 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Did Epiphanius Identify James as the Naked from Hegesippus?
Replies: 21
Views: 9179

Re: Did Epiphanius Identify James as the Naked from Hegesipp

But did Hegesippus share this understanding and if Hegesippus contradicted that assumption would that have stopped Epiphanius from putting forward that understanding?