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- Sun Oct 20, 2013 4:26 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Pauline Gospel was a Late Invention
- Replies: 126
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Re: The Pauline Gospel was a Late Invention
I was not thinking church as in a fully structured entity as we know churches today, or even in recent centuries. Nor specifically meetings of christians. "I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you to live in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gos...
- Sun Oct 20, 2013 3:08 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Pauline Gospel was a Late Invention
- Replies: 126
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Re: The Pauline Gospel was a Late Invention
Certainly Galatians 1 suggests that that 'Paul' was dealing with an established church. That's certainly wrong. But try your best to show that the people in Jerusalem were anything other than Jewish messianists, such as John the Baptist's folloers were. There is absolutely no sign of an organized J...
- Sun Oct 20, 2013 12:18 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Pauline Gospel was a Late Invention
- Replies: 126
- Views: 161491
Re: The Pauline Gospel was a Late Invention
Is it not your position that the Pauline Corpus was composed after c 70 CE? Certainly Galatians 1 suggests that that 'Paul' was dealing with an established church. That's certainly wrong. But try your best to show that the people in Jerusalem were anything other than Jewish messianists, such as Joh...
- Sat Oct 19, 2013 10:31 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Pauline Gospel was a Late Invention
- Replies: 126
- Views: 161491
Re: The Pauline Gospel was a Late Invention
Balderdash! :D Bladerdash to you!! Balderdash to Doherty and Ehrman. You seem to be promoting the status quo. Please, this is NOT Sunday School. This is an extremely serious matter. Many Scholars have already shown that the Pauline Corpus are late writings. We are dealing with massive forgeries, fr...
- Sat Oct 19, 2013 10:30 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Pauline Gospel was a Late Invention
- Replies: 126
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Re: The Pauline Gospel was a Late Invention
The most natural Greek syntactically would be τον Ιησου του λεγομενου χριστου αδελφον. The defining genitive is usually wedged between article and noun. For example, in 2.186 we get the sons of Hasmoneaus, των Άσαμωναιου παιδων. There are some good examples in 2:158, here's Aristobulus son of Herod ...
- Sat Oct 19, 2013 10:14 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Pauline Gospel was a Late Invention
- Replies: 126
- Views: 161491
Re: The Pauline Gospel was a Late Invention
But, but that was deductive logic. It must be right.Peter Kirby wrote:Balderdash!
- Sat Oct 19, 2013 8:00 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Pauline Gospel was a Late Invention
- Replies: 126
- Views: 161491
Re: The Pauline Gospel was a Late Invention
If Antiquities of the Jews 20.9.1 was interpolated with the words "called the ANOINTED" [called the christ] then it can easily be seen that Jesus the brother of James was most likely the son of Damneus. You don't talk of someone by their full familial name as a secondary reference . It's ...
- Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:36 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Pauline Gospel was a Late Invention
- Replies: 126
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Re: The Pauline Gospel was a Late Invention
The use of 'christ' does not appear in the Greek of Josephus outside of these two references in Ant. 20.9.1 and Ant. 18.3.3 (both probably spurious). Josephus nowhere else chooses to use such language to refer to the appointing of a high priest (or, indeed, at all). I've tried to sell this fact for...
- Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:12 pm
- Forum: Jewish Texts and History
- Topic: Has Anyone Ever Suggested that the Psalms of Solomon = 70 CE
- Replies: 8
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Pompey's arrival in Jerusalem
Ps. Sol. 8 15 He [god] brought him that is from the end of the earth, that attacks with strength; He declared war against Jerusalem, and against her land. 16 The princes of the land met him with joy: they said unto him: Blessed be thy way! Come, enter in peace. 17 They made the rough ways even, befo...
- Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:37 pm
- Forum: Jewish Texts and History
- Topic: Has Anyone Ever Suggested that the Psalms of Solomon = 70 CE
- Replies: 8
- Views: 17233
The death of Pompey
Plutarch, Pompey 79 3 Then, as they drew near the shore, Cornelia, together with his friends, stood on the trireme watching with great anxiety for the outcome, and began to take heart when she saw many of the king's people assembling at the landing as if to give him an honourable welcome. But at thi...