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but both are still agreeing on what they found in Marcion Really? Does T ever say the Bezae variant is in Marcion? Not really Well, that is true too. I guess it seems to me that Tertullian is arguing against Marcion using this phrase, so it makes more sense to be using Marcion's text (especially as...

Yes and when T accepts the Bezae reading at Luke 5:14 it seems almost impossible that T and E are engaged in "holding different parts of the same elephant." Many of Irenaeus's variants are Bezae variants. You can read the parallel reporting of T and E on the Bezae/Old Latin variant of Luk...

Apparently Bezae also has "a testimony unto you" in 5:14 so this whole "Marcion gospel" things getting weaker and weaker. Well, yes, that sort of thing happens all the time in Epiphanius and Tertullian; they seem unaware of variants across the Mediterranean, and they accuse Marc...

Versus having to do "everything," but I get what you mean (but still don't personally see it as a big deal). The ancients apparently did. 1 Maccabees 1.11-15: 11 In those days lawless men came forth from Israel, and misled many, saying, "Let us go and make a covenant with the Gentile...

Regarding gentile Torah observance, in the big picture no one, Jew or gentile, can observe all of the Torah outside of Israel, because certain things only apply there, such as sacrifices (and the attendant ritual purity laws) and laws tied to agriculture. The Babylonian Talmud has no gemara for the...

If you insist I can go through some 70 other words case by case. But I do not like to spew like Stephen Huller, rather invite you to investigate. Thanks for that, but my original question still remains: how many words are actually attested for Marcion (from Tertullian, from Epiphanius, from Adamant...

For me the two words which sealed the deal are the flavor word τε and the Lucan word for immediately παραχρῆμα . There would be no reason for any Marcionite scribe to remove them, and yet they are missing completely from the attested text in Marcion (that includes Paul). There are other unloaded wo...

Since the Gospel of the Hebrews is the only book that I think Eusebius lists as Antilegomena, ie. read commonly in churches but disputed.... Eusebius, History of the Church 3.25.3-5: Among the disputed writings [των αντιλεγομένων], which are nevertheless recognized by many, are extant the so-called...

The NSRV version of 2 Esdras (Vulgate 4 Esdras) with the missing text (ie not in the KJV) in Chp 7 is here: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20Esdras+1&version=NRSV The link to the RSV is down on the EARLY WRITINGS website page for 2 Esdras , so I advise just using the link I gave...

The NSRV version of 2 Esdras (Vulgate 4 Esdras) with the missing text (ie not in the KJV) in Chp 7 is here: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20Esdras+1&version=NRSV The link to the RSV is down on the EARLY WRITINGS website page for 2 Esdras, so I advise just using the link I gave ...