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But Irenaeus has a similar pattern of misquotation with other passages from Jeremiah (from memory) and attributes a agraphon to another prophetic book. The problem may well have something to do with the fact that what passes as the collected works of 'Irenaeus' may well be a composite of other autho...

... amplified by the fact that kefa means small stone not boulder.

Allan Brent again: "Thus Ignatius has been successful in achieving, as a scapegoat sacrifice, the peace at Antioch that he had failed to achieve whilst still free. His claim for a single bishop at the apex of a hierarchy had been the reason for the inner conflict in that church that had led to ...

The parallel concept in 4 Maccabees: Writing possibly in the early first century, the author of 4 Maccabees re-tells the stories of the martyrdoms of Eleazar and the mother with her seven sons. It is the author's thesis that the Maccabean martyrs prove by their willingness to die for the law that re...

We stand very close to the substitution myth of the Islamic pseudepigrapha

Allan Brent: What is the character of that sacrifice for Ignatius? Ignatius will call his sacrifice a 'scapegoat sacrifice'. As he explains to the Ephesians gathering around him for the procession to the altar of sacrifice at Rome: I am your scapegoat sacrifice (peripsema) and I consecrate myself as...

Then Ory is a smart man (or a crazy man) for sharing the same conclusions with me

Stephan. Why does Matthew always have to follow from canonical Mark? Why can't both canonical Mark and canonical Matthew derive from a lost ur-gospel?

But why do we assume that our Mark is ur-Mark? This is silly. Canonical Mark is a specifically 'Catholic' or 'orthodox' redaction of Mark's original text.