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by Ken Olson
Tue Apr 30, 2024 3:03 pm
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?
Replies: 152
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Re: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?

I have heard from a couple experts here myself. They have noted (a) that the character here starts out going southeast/northwest [atypical for sigma], (b) that the stroke is unbroken [not observed in sigmas], and (c) that the accent placed directly over the character is indicative in this case. A f...
by Ken Olson
Tue Apr 30, 2024 9:20 am
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?
Replies: 152
Views: 21027

Re: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?

Could you please do the same thing with the higher quality image of the disputed character from III 18? Sure, however, the sample for III 18 you gave in the last post (https://earlywritings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=172091#p172091) was a lower quality image than the one for 1 9. (zoom in, you'll se...
by Ken Olson
Tue Apr 30, 2024 8:38 am
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?
Replies: 152
Views: 21027

Re: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?

Here is perhaps a better quality image of the Iota from συμφωνοίη in I 9 Yeah that image was very high quality. Here's what I get: ken_iota.png From left to right: original cropped image, sobel-transformed image, and the top few percent darkest pixels. Recall, the darkest pixels will be awarded hig...
by Ken Olson
Tue Apr 30, 2024 7:17 am
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?
Replies: 152
Views: 21027

Re: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?

And the character in dispute from III 13:
Iota or Sigma in III 13.png
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Best,

Ken
by Ken Olson
Tue Apr 30, 2024 7:13 am
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?
Replies: 152
Views: 21027

Re: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?

RandyHelzerman wrote: Tue Apr 30, 2024 7:02 am You mean #11 on this chart?
oi-1.jpeg

If not, if you could just mark the ones you want to compare on the high-resolution images from Hendrick et al., I'd be happy to.
Here is perhaps a better quality image of the Iota from συμφωνοίη in I 9:
Iota I 9.png
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Best,

Ken
by Ken Olson
Tue Apr 30, 2024 5:59 am
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?
Replies: 152
Views: 21027

Re: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?

I have heard from a couple experts here myself. They have noted (a) that the character here starts out going southeast/northwest [atypical for sigma], (b) that the stroke is unbroken [not observed in sigmas], and (c) that the accent placed directly over the character is indicative in this case. To ...
by Ken Olson
Tue Apr 30, 2024 5:35 am
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?
Replies: 152
Views: 21027

Re: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?

Like I said, I don't want to prejudice the issue, so I won'd do the same for the gymnastic example---try it yourself and see what you get. I do not think this answers the point AdamKvanta raised. If by 'gymnastic example' you mean the letter under discussion on III 18, I think you have to discuss t...
by Ken Olson
Mon Apr 29, 2024 11:16 am
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?
Replies: 152
Views: 21027

Re: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?

I experimented around with some image processing/edge detection/contour detection algorithms. Results posted here w/o comment. I think you may need to comment on what you think your image processing shows. It's not clear to me that it shows anything we didn't already know - that some examples of th...
by Ken Olson
Sun Apr 28, 2024 8:14 am
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?
Replies: 152
Views: 21027

Re: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?

This is Appendix A: Paleographical Peculiarities from Morton Smith, Clement of Alexandria and a Secret Gospel of Mark (Harvard, 1973) in which Smith lists the abbreviations and ligatures he found in the manuscript. M. Smith - Clement of Alexandria - Paleographic Peculiarities p. 293.png I think that...
by Ken Olson
Sun Apr 28, 2024 7:34 am
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?
Replies: 152
Views: 21027

Re: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?

FWIW my go-to greek guy (a greek historian I'm facebook friended with) says without reservation that the two words are γυμνοί γυμνώ Yeah I know, random guy on the internet quoting random guy on the internet, discount accordingly. Yes, if you've found this person reliable in the past this might give...