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- Fri Jul 31, 2015 8:41 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: My review of Richard Carrier's "On the Historicity of Jesus"
- Replies: 139
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Re: My review of Richard Carrier's "On the Historicity of Je
Thanks for explanation Peter. I've looked over it a number of times. I'm always wary about arguing a point through analogies, since the argument tends to become about the analogy than rather about the real thing. If I understand you correctly, you are saying that by adding additional figures (Moses...
- Fri Jul 31, 2015 8:19 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: My review of Richard Carrier's "On the Historicity of Jesus"
- Replies: 139
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Re: My review of Richard Carrier's "On the Historicity of Je
And while we do find plenty of evidence for both parts in mythology (no I'm not bothering to hunt it down--exercise for the reader right there), what we don't find plenty of evidence for is the part excluded at the start--the location ("above the earth"). It's the location posited by Carr...
- Fri Jul 31, 2015 8:57 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Myth vs History and the "Boundary of Certainty"
- Replies: 20
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Re: Myth vs History and the "Boundary of Certainty"
The names you could use for this approach include: Justin Martyr Irenaeus Clement of Alexandria Tertullian Origen Cyprian Eusebius These seven authors can provide, epistemically, the foundation of the investigation of ante-Nicene Christianity. They should be analyzed in conjunction with the documen...
- Fri Jul 31, 2015 8:48 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: My review of Richard Carrier's "On the Historicity of Jesus"
- Replies: 139
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Re: My review of Richard Carrier's "On the Historicity of Je
But is sure that argument by silence is so weak? A silence is not "weak" as an argument if it demonstrates an absence of belief. But... (1) If a silence doesn't demonstrate an absence of belief, then it is "weak" as an argument. (2) This silence doesn't demonstrate an absence of...
- Thu Jul 30, 2015 5:55 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Myth vs History and the "Boundary of Certainty"
- Replies: 20
- Views: 21272
Re: Myth vs History and the "Boundary of Certainty"
Let's assume that we're leaving aside general philosophical questions here... right? We're not asking whether we're brains in vats or something. The evidence for ancient Christianity comes in two flavors: literary and documentary. That's it. You've got your books and you got your relics. That's what...
- Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:29 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: My review of Richard Carrier's "On the Historicity of Jesus"
- Replies: 139
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Re: My review of Richard Carrier's "On the Historicity of Je
That's a good point.GakuseiDon wrote:More than one person has remarked that Carrier should have used BT on non-controversial questions of history, to build up a body of work that scholars can reference to gain confidence in BT's applicability. Then, only after that, use it on controversial questions.
- Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:26 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: My review of Richard Carrier's "On the Historicity of Jesus"
- Replies: 139
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Re: My review of Richard Carrier's "On the Historicity of Je
In fact, I believe that BT could be used to examine whether Paul's Jesus is 'earthly' or 'celestial'. Consider the following thought experiment: Prior Probability: reference class of people 'made of sperm' and 'made of woman' who were regarded as earthly or celestial, using the literature written a...
- Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:21 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: My review of Richard Carrier's "On the Historicity of Jesus"
- Replies: 139
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Re: My review of Richard Carrier's "On the Historicity of Je
Peter, thanks for comments. The only problem here is that you don't seem to understand the concept of " a fortiori ." The whole point of it is to grant less-than-fully-reasonable premises in favor of the opposite conclusion and then make an estimate that way. When that estimate comes back...
- Thu Jul 30, 2015 12:16 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: My review of Richard Carrier's "On the Historicity of Jesus"
- Replies: 139
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Re: My review of Richard Carrier's "On the Historicity of Je
I don't see any evidence in Paul or other early writings, either Christian or pagan, for the idea of a celestial being getting incarnated ('into flesh') and killed above the earth. There are three components of this: 1) "Celestial" being 2) Getting "incarnated" 3) "Killed a...
- Thu Jul 30, 2015 10:52 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: My review of Richard Carrier's "On the Historicity of Jesus"
- Replies: 139
- Views: 106688
Re: My review of Richard Carrier's "On the Historicity of Je
At this end point, let me emphasize here something I mentioned in my 'Review' section above: Carrier has blazed a trail here that I believe needs to be followed. He has spelt out the elements that he has used in developing his theory, and this makes it easy to engage his work. I'd like to encourage...