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by Peter Kirby
Wed Dec 18, 2013 4:01 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: My Mother Just Tried to Explain the Jesus Myth Theory to Me
Replies: 13
Views: 15731

Re: My Mother Just Tried to Explain the Jesus Myth Theory to

Never underestimate the ideological clout of your regular, ordinary neighborhood village atheist. At a local level an outspoken atheist often functions as a street philosopher, secular rabbi, and critical thinking evangelist rolled into one. Jesus myth theory tends to be a grassroots kind of thing m...
by Peter Kirby
Wed Dec 18, 2013 1:14 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Why Didn't God Create Water?
Replies: 10
Views: 14382

Re: Why Didn't God Create Water?

stephan happy huller wrote:If there wasn't an all powerful Creator who was Jesus?
Jesus was just some guy, you know? (to misquote Douglas Adams)
by Peter Kirby
Wed Dec 18, 2013 1:02 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The quest for the historical Christian communities
Replies: 22
Views: 15752

Re: The quest for the historical Christian communities

Richard Bauckham and others go so far now as to write that the gospels are based not just on Christian communities but upon eyewitnesses. An example of the campaign being waged in Anglo scholarship for a (stronger) conservative/traditional point of view in the study of the New Testament, largely co...
by Peter Kirby
Wed Dec 18, 2013 12:56 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Why Didn't God Create Water?
Replies: 10
Views: 14382

Re: Genesis creation

This was the received Semitic creation story, a version of which is well-known from the Babylonian creation. In this latter version Marduk used the divine wind to hold the watery chaos dragon Tiamat 's mouth open so that he could thrust his sword into it. The Hebrew "deep" is the cognate ...
by Peter Kirby
Tue Dec 17, 2013 11:03 pm
Forum: General Religious Discussion
Topic: For atheist to answer
Replies: 27
Views: 33452

Re: For atheist to answer

I am feeling Clintonian: "depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is."
by Peter Kirby
Tue Dec 17, 2013 8:45 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: my Testimonium article
Replies: 88
Views: 101020

much ado about nothing

This thread has officially jumped the shark.
by Peter Kirby
Tue Dec 17, 2013 4:49 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Detering, etc.
Replies: 55
Views: 72274

Re: Detering, etc.

Faith, damned faith, and statistics. Air travel on commercial airliners in most countries has a pretty good record for safety.
by Peter Kirby
Tue Dec 17, 2013 2:34 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Detering, etc.
Replies: 55
Views: 72274

Re: Detering, etc.

Maybe this "does too, does not" debate could benefit from considering historical method as a subject as practiced in secular history. Historical Method Full disclosure: I wrote the (substance of this) article. http://www.christianorigins.com/2005/08/introduction-to-historical-method.html M...
by Peter Kirby
Mon Dec 16, 2013 11:48 pm
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: The Strange Humility Displayed on the Coins of Agrippa II
Replies: 47
Views: 64721

Re: The Strange Humility Displayed on the Coins of Agrippa I

Herod Agrippa II: He was friendly (Wikipedia says "intimate") with Josephus, which explains a lot I guess.
by Peter Kirby
Mon Dec 16, 2013 8:51 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Why There Is Not And Never Will Be Consensus
Replies: 32
Views: 21180

Re: Why There Is Not And Never Will Be Consensus

PhilosopherJay wrote:I actually agree that for the near future there won't be much chance for a consensus. However, I do have hope that a consensus towards historical skepticism will emerge as more rational people study the field and carefully weigh the arguments.
Fair enough. Cheers!