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by Stefan Kristensen
Sat Oct 13, 2018 12:14 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Comparing gMark with 'other' history writings of the time?
Replies: 9
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Comparing gMark with 'other' history writings of the time?

I've argued that gMark was intended to be understood as an account of historical events. And as such, it is legitimate to compare gMark to other known history works of the time. What I'm most interested in is the 'narrator' of such other works. Because one thing that characterizes gMark is the anony...
by Stefan Kristensen
Fri Oct 12, 2018 2:01 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: gMark is intended to be history writing
Replies: 56
Views: 74550

Re: gMark is intended to be history writing

Nice links, Ben. It makes me speculate that perhaps the arrival of gJohn on the scene is precisely that thing which motivated Luke to write his gospel? I have not decided whether Luke knew John itself, the Asiatic traditions behind John, or some earlier edition of John. At least some of the items o...
by Stefan Kristensen
Fri Oct 12, 2018 4:02 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Mark 9:1 "seeing the kingdom having come in power"
Replies: 23
Views: 28628

Re: Mark 9:1 "seeing the kingdom having come in power"

If I remember correctly Jöris indeed took the same track you sketched. He too looked at the sources in Exodus especially and the rest of scripture and other non-biblical Jewish writings and even relevant Greek literature establishing the base meanings, to build his case. For every instance of γενεα...
by Stefan Kristensen
Fri Oct 12, 2018 1:00 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: gMark is intended to be history writing
Replies: 56
Views: 74550

Re: gMark is intended to be history writing

I also think there are clear indications that Luke knew gJohn or some version of it. But I definately think that Luke had gMark and gMatt in pretty much the same forms we have them. Both Klinghardt's and Vinzent's models allow for it all to have happened in close proximity in space and time * up to...
by Stefan Kristensen
Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:30 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: gMark is intended to be history writing
Replies: 56
Views: 74550

Re: gMark is intended to be history writing

I also think there are clear indications that Luke knew gJohn or some version of it. And I think the reason Luke says that his written account establishes the "certainty" of the things Theophilus has been taught, is because Luke himself has "attended to everything minutely from the t...
by Stefan Kristensen
Thu Oct 11, 2018 1:51 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Stoicism, Platonism, and the Jewishness of Early Christianity
Replies: 5
Views: 7586

Re: Stoicism, Platonism, and the Jewishness of Early Christianity

One possible issue is that during the period c 50 BCE to c 200 CE there is a general rise in popularity of Platonism at the expense of stoicism. The NT writings come in the early part of this transition, when stoic ideas were more widespread than specifically Platonic ones. Andrew Criddle That's wh...
by Stefan Kristensen
Thu Oct 11, 2018 1:26 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: gMark is intended to be history writing
Replies: 56
Views: 74550

Re: gMark is intended to be history writing

.. the fare of the gospel message in the world, which is referred to in the texts of gMark and gMatt by the very pregnant term "the Word" (and especially in gJohn, if one thinks Luke knew gJohn), then they also became "servants of the word from the beginning". This is actually p...
by Stefan Kristensen
Thu Oct 11, 2018 1:24 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: gMark is intended to be history writing
Replies: 56
Views: 74550

Re: gMark is intended to be history writing

Also, from my understanding of how the gospel writers understood their accounts as I explain above, i.e. as the story about the gospel message, or the Word, coming into the world to be carried throughout the world, it follows that the Word needs carriers. These are the apostles, of course, both thos...
by Stefan Kristensen
Thu Oct 11, 2018 12:37 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: gMark is intended to be history writing
Replies: 56
Views: 74550

Re: gMark is intended to be history writing

And I think the reason Luke says that his written account establishes the "certainty" of the things Theophilus has been taught, is because Luke himself has "attended to everthing minutely from the top" and so wants to write it "precisely in sequence" (Luke 1:3). If that...
by Stefan Kristensen
Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:59 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: gMark is intended to be history writing
Replies: 56
Views: 74550

Re: gMark is intended to be history writing

Indeed, the position of the temporal marker, "from the beginning" ("απ' αρχης"), seems to refer to their having become both "eyewitnesses" and "servants of the word" (or whatever way we understand these terms) at the same time. But what is this 'time' exactly...