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- Tue Apr 02, 2024 12:50 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Short Recension of Three Letters of Ignatius
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Re: The Short Recension of Three Letters of Ignatius
"We can hardly suppose that the Syriac translator...should have made such omissions for the sake of brevity, more especially when these Epistles in themselves are so short." No doubt Cureton was more knowledgeable than I'll ever be, but surely this is an argument from incredulity. There a...
- Tue Apr 02, 2024 5:41 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Short Recension of Three Letters of Ignatius
- Replies: 35
- Views: 870
Re: The Short Recension of Three Letters of Ignatius
Have a read: https://www.google.com.au/books/edition/The_Antient_Syriac_Version_of_the_Epistl/3UEYAAAAYAAJ?hl=en In the preface, on pp. x-xvi, Cureton discusses the 12 manuscripts he used to give the Syriac versions he does. Then in § IV, p.xvi, he notes, "In viewing the Syriac version of the ...
- Mon Apr 01, 2024 11:43 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Short Recension of Three Letters of Ignatius
- Replies: 35
- Views: 870
- Mon Apr 01, 2024 4:00 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Important milestones in biblical scholarship
- Replies: 25
- Views: 711
Re: Important milestones in biblical scholarship
Intertextual scholarship, such as Thomas L Brodies, eg.
The Crucible Bridge
and Adam Winn's follow-up, Mark and the Elisha-Elijah Narrative
The Crucible Bridge
and Adam Winn's follow-up, Mark and the Elisha-Elijah Narrative
- Mon Apr 01, 2024 3:53 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Important milestones in biblical scholarship
- Replies: 25
- Views: 711
Re: Important milestones in biblical scholarship
The discovery and exegesis of the Nag Hammadi Library
The dicovery and exegesis of the Dead Sea Scrolls (and comparisons & contrast of some of it texts to other Jewish literature and to Christian doctrines (see viewtopic.php?p=168647#p168647 and following))
The dicovery and exegesis of the Dead Sea Scrolls (and comparisons & contrast of some of it texts to other Jewish literature and to Christian doctrines (see viewtopic.php?p=168647#p168647 and following))
- Mon Apr 01, 2024 3:41 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: My recreation of the opening of the First Gospel
- Replies: 53
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Re: My recreation of the opening of the First Gospel
I get the impression that there was an early tradition of a John - probably [mostly] John, son of Zebedee - telling of a revelation from/by a Saviour/Christ/Jesus and of this eventually being usurped by [perhaps new] narratives about this Saviour-Christ or a Saviour-Jesus* +/- the Christ descending...
- Sun Mar 31, 2024 7:06 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Short Recension of Three Letters of Ignatius
- Replies: 35
- Views: 870
Re: re; re: reeeeeeee
Surely you know that Doherty and Carrier can explain all those under a mythicist rubric. No, I don't. But since they are tied into Paul I probably could develop questions about why you've gone down this path, but I sure as hell don't want to read your answers. You have this weird propensity to fram...
- Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:04 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Short Recension of Three Letters of Ignatius
- Replies: 35
- Views: 870
Re: re; re: reeeeeeee
But I will say: 5. The fact that the Ignatian Epistle to the Romans mentions Paul and Peter - as Apostles - is not evidence for the 'historicity' of Jesus. Who cares whether it's evidence for historicity or not. It's all fan fiction anyway. You appeared to care whether the Ignatian Letters were evi...
- Sun Mar 31, 2024 5:45 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Short Recension of Three Letters of Ignatius
- Replies: 35
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Re: references to Paul and Peter in the Ignatian Epistle to the Romans
The Syriac version refers to Paul and Peter ... Yes, it does. Jack Bull notes: "... In IgnRom 4 [the author, 'Ignatius'] admits he is not on the same level as the apostles, Peter and Paul, but there is still a recognition of his authority and his right to be able to instruct and command the fa...
- Sun Mar 31, 2024 5:30 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Short Recension of Three Letters of Ignatius
- Replies: 35
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Re: The Recensions of the Letters attributed to Ignatius
3. The short recessions. There are three manuscripts, written in Syriac. They are also called Curetonian epistles, named after William Cureton who published them in the 19th C. "The seven epistles in the ‘middle’ recension that are widely accepted as genuine ( IgnPol, IgnEph, IgnRom, IgnMag, I...