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by Secret Alias
Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:09 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Did Mark introduce 'Abbà' against Marcion?
Replies: 29
Views: 12110

Re: Did Mark introduce 'Abbà' against Marcion?

Just to make it clearer for you. There is what I would call 'category 1' evidence viz. actual manuscripts of the gospels and then 'category 2' explicit decisive evidence of references to readings from gospels in other ancient manuscripts and then 'category 3' evidence 'reconstructed' by scholars fro...
by Secret Alias
Wed Sep 13, 2017 7:57 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Did Mark introduce 'Abbà' against Marcion?
Replies: 29
Views: 12110

Re: Did Mark introduce 'Abbà' against Marcion?

Of what value is taking a modern reconstruction and giving it precedence and preferring it to ACTUAL EVIDENCE FROM ANTIQUITY. I come to this forum to watch mental illness at work. Not just from you Giuseppe but in truth most often from you.
by Secret Alias
Tue Sep 12, 2017 5:58 am
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: New Masada dig
Replies: 1
Views: 4101

Re: New Masada dig

Very cool. Thank you for sharing this.
by Secret Alias
Mon Sep 11, 2017 2:49 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: How Do Luke and John Know About Mary and Martha?
Replies: 37
Views: 17335

Re: How Do Luke and John Know About Mary and Martha?

And the date of Clement doesn't really matter because he clearly connects with Tatian and Justin before him as 'harmony gospel' witnesses. It's like Irenaeus and possibly Polycarp are encircled by the older tradition.
by Secret Alias
Mon Sep 11, 2017 2:42 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: How Do Luke and John Know About Mary and Martha?
Replies: 37
Views: 17335

Re: How Do Luke and John Know About Mary and Martha?

Let me reframe your question for people who like Marcion. Tertullian and later rescensions of Irenaeus's Adversus Haereses claim that Marcion falsified Luke. Fine. That's an argument. That's not a fact. But pretending that the gospel of Marcion was a version of Luke keeps everyone speaking about 'Lu...
by Secret Alias
Mon Sep 11, 2017 2:32 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: How Do Luke and John Know About Mary and Martha?
Replies: 37
Views: 17335

Re: How Do Luke and John Know About Mary and Martha?

I guess another way of saying it is: 1. Clement never says in QDS he is citing from Luke 2. it makes little sense to think that he is arguing from Luke without explicitly citing Luke as he is arguing up until that point from an explicit comparison or reconciliation of gospels he calls 'Mark' and 'Ma...
by Secret Alias
Mon Sep 11, 2017 2:23 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: How Do Luke and John Know About Mary and Martha?
Replies: 37
Views: 17335

Re: How Do Luke and John Know About Mary and Martha?

Ummm. Do you realize how ridiculous this sounds? 'We can't accept your position because you haven't told us what your position is ...' Isn't it possible that someone carrying out research DOESN'T ACTUALLY HAVE A 'POSITION' but rather just presents little pieces of evidence which help discount or min...
by Secret Alias
Mon Sep 11, 2017 11:22 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: How Do Luke and John Know About Mary and Martha?
Replies: 37
Views: 17335

Re: How Do Luke and John Know About Mary and Martha?

Another angle to investigate is the fact that 'marta' = lady, mistress in Aramaic (the feminine form of מר). What gospel would have made reference to an Aramaic title like that?
by Secret Alias
Sun Sep 10, 2017 2:01 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: How Do Luke and John Know About Mary and Martha?
Replies: 37
Views: 17335

Re: How Do Luke and John Know About Mary and Martha?

On this 'Alexandrian Matthew': Origen says that Basilides wrote a Gospel (HomLk 1.2). Exactly what this may have been is unknown. The passages cited below show that he made use of Matthew's Gospel. Others have seen evidence of Luke's parable of the rich man and Lazarus (Lk 16:19–31) in a fragment pr...