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by Kunigunde Kreuzerin
Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:10 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Another text, another story
Replies: 35
Views: 21673

Re: Another text, another story

I would say that your suggestion requires a too much modern background, something as the Nietszche's constructivist aphorisma ''there are not facts, but only interpretations'' : agreed that Mark is a genius, but not so much to anticipate the modern constructivism :mrgreen: Yes, I had a similar thou...
by Kunigunde Kreuzerin
Mon Aug 22, 2016 8:30 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Another text, another story
Replies: 35
Views: 21673

Re: Another text, another story

I am not so sure ... Thanks. I'm completely sure that all are not so sure. :mrgreen: But I’m really interested in the kind of argument against my suggestion. - Is it only inconceivable that Mark could have written such a story - or is it inconceivable that he could have portrayed the disciples in s...
by Kunigunde Kreuzerin
Mon Aug 22, 2016 5:55 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Another text, another story
Replies: 35
Views: 21673

Re: Another text, another story

. My suggestion is simple - Jesus did not curse the fig tree - the fig tree did not wither - all that happens only in the ears and in the eyes of the disciples - because they did not bring forth “fruit” 1) Unlike in GMatthew in Mark’s story everything happens not objectively, but only subjectively. ...
by Kunigunde Kreuzerin
Sun Aug 21, 2016 11:48 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Another text, another story
Replies: 35
Views: 21673

Another text, another story

. My impression is that a few Markan pericopes point to a different understanding of the story as in Matthew or Luke, but their understanding is completely dominated by the understanding of the Matthean or Lukan pericope. I do not mean a secret or allegorical understanding, but more or less on the s...
by Kunigunde Kreuzerin
Sat Aug 20, 2016 10:35 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Son Control-Mark's 2nd Amendment. Is 1:1 "son of God" added?
Replies: 18
Views: 21800

Re: Son Control-Mark's 2nd Amendment. Is 1:1 "son of God" ad

I also think of Sinaiticus at this very locus; see below Also an interesting witness is P.Oxy. 76.5073. The wording is beginning (of) the gospel (of) Jesus the Christ Hurtado wrote P.Oxy. 76.5073 is a Christian amulet (palaeographically dated to late 3rd or early 4th century CE), containing Mark 1:...
by Kunigunde Kreuzerin
Fri Aug 19, 2016 3:21 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Mark and Paul.
Replies: 24
Views: 12960

Re: Mark and Paul.

Personally it seems that high Christology is expressly stated in the letters of Paul, but only implied in the gospel of Mark. In other words, Mark can assume that the reader/hearer of his gospel knows some high Christology and can put it in perspective. He is using the rhetorical technique of "...
by Kunigunde Kreuzerin
Fri Aug 19, 2016 3:05 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Mark and Paul.
Replies: 24
Views: 12960

Re: Mark and Paul.

Okay, but do you see Mark as disagreeing with Paul on this matter, taking something away from Christ that Paul's Christology would grant him? (Another way of asking: why would Mark draw from Paul so much if he disagrees with Paul on something so fundamental? Is he deliberately correcting Paul? Does...
by Kunigunde Kreuzerin
Thu Aug 18, 2016 2:48 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Mark and Paul.
Replies: 24
Views: 12960

Re: Mark and Paul.

I want your opinions on a matter that I have been thinking of for some time. Paul appears to regard Jesus as the preexistent son of God; that is, Jesus was already the son of God before he was made manifest in the likeness of flesh (Romans 8.3, for instance). But Mark is pretty easy to read as sepa...
by Kunigunde Kreuzerin
Thu Aug 18, 2016 11:04 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Bread and fish.
Replies: 14
Views: 13422

Re: Bread and fish.

Ben C. Smith wrote:That is a pretty stunning suggestion, Kunigunde.
Thanks

btw I find it interesting that the Didache placed David on the side of the wine, but Mark placed him on the side of the bread. Both seems to be a bit "surprising"
by Kunigunde Kreuzerin
Thu Aug 18, 2016 10:50 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: the insider Mark not known by Irenaeus
Replies: 28
Views: 14177

Re: the insider Mark not known by Irenaeus

Jesus is not a mere earthly man possessed by Sathan (the Pharisees interpretation) it's the interpretation of the scribes Who is then Jesus Nazarene (for the insiders)? He, as mere unworthy recipient of a Christ who is ALREADY risen (and has therefore no need of a second resurrection) is simply a f...