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- Wed Nov 06, 2019 8:06 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: All the references to demiurge in Mark
- Replies: 49
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Re: All the references to demiurge in Mark
I am adding something that obviously the apologist can never say: that Jesus is made the creator in this deliberately embarrassing episode (the failed first healing) to justify the accused clumsiness of the creator before the Gnostics. This is where it all goes off the rails . Here I disagree. The ...
- Wed Nov 06, 2019 7:56 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: All the references to demiurge in Mark
- Replies: 49
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Re: All the references to demiurge in Mark
Ben, even this apologist, after a rapid research on google, identifies the spittle of Jesus with the act of creation by God: It is possible that Jesus’ use of mud in John 9 was meant to parallel God’s original creation of man: “The LORD God formed the man from the dust of the ground” (Genesis 2:7). ...
- Wed Nov 06, 2019 7:48 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Why the source Q had to be lost
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Why the source Q had to be lost
The divine being that the Gnostics believed hidden behind the Serpent of Genesis had to manifest itself as a human being so that he could be attributed with the revelations and saving instructions which his disciples (7 in number) transmitted as logia Jesus said… ...and with the institution of the s...
- Wed Nov 06, 2019 7:30 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: All the references to demiurge in Mark
- Replies: 49
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Re: All the references to demiurge in Mark
No. The one about the healing with spittle is especially irrelevant. Really? The phrase, God formed man from the dust of the earth and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and man became a living being (Gen 2:7) is the origin of many speculations concerning 'hylic' man, i.e.. material man...
- Wed Nov 06, 2019 7:17 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: All the references to demiurge in Mark
- Replies: 49
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Re: All the references to demiurge in Mark
Don't you see a pattern in all these cases?
What "Mark" is doing is rehabiliting the demiurge against the accusations addressed by the Gnostics against him.
- Wed Nov 06, 2019 5:35 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: All the references to demiurge in Mark
- Replies: 49
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Re: All the references to demiurge in Mark
There is also Mark 10:2-12: 2 Some Pharisees came and tested him by asking, “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife?” 3 “What did Moses command you?” he replied. 4 They said, “Moses permitted a man to write a certificate of divorce and send her away.” 5 “It was because your hearts were hard tha...
- Wed Nov 06, 2019 5:26 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: All the references to demiurge in Mark
- Replies: 49
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All the references to demiurge in Mark
I see the reference to demiurge in Mark in: the passage of Mark 13 above quoted by Ben the father of Jesus called Christ in opposition to the alien Father of which "Barabbas" is the son. the Jesus who heals the blind man of Bethsaida by spitting etc: he is portrayed deliberately as clumsy ...
- Wed Nov 06, 2019 4:55 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: A possible origin for the talmudic Jesus son of Panthera
- Replies: 9
- Views: 5411
Re: A possible origin for the talmudic Jesus son of Panthera
I have to ask this, is your inclusion of " the " in grammatically incorrect places just a consequence of the language barrier between English and Italian? Do you write and read in Italian and just run it through a translator? sometimes I use the translator. Should I add not "the"...
- Wed Nov 06, 2019 1:29 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: A possible origin for the talmudic Jesus son of Panthera
- Replies: 9
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Re: A possible origin for the talmudic Jesus son of Panthera
Yeshu ben Stada/Pantira was marginally historical. That you are attempting to wedge in your nonsensical agenda here is proof that you lost the plot a long time ago. "Did the demons replace the original serpents to eclipse the view of Jesus as the Serpent (raised/impaled/crucified by Moses) hea...
- Wed Nov 06, 2019 12:41 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: A possible origin for the talmudic Jesus son of Panthera
- Replies: 9
- Views: 5411
Re: A possible origin for the talmudic Jesus son of Panthera
It is curious the absence of serpents in the synoptical tradition. In their place, there are the demons threathening/possessing the people, who are exorcized by Jesus the healer. Did the demons replace the original serpents to eclipse the view of Jesus as the Serpent (raised/impaled/crucified by Mos...