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by nightshadetwine
Sat Nov 03, 2018 1:09 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Wepwawet "opens the way" for the king/Osiris, John the Baptist "prepares the way" for the king/Jesus
Replies: 0
Views: 5756

Wepwawet "opens the way" for the king/Osiris, John the Baptist "prepares the way" for the king/Jesus

"The Messiah Myth: The Near Eastern Roots of Jesus and David" By Thomas L. Thompson: The frequent references to "the kingdom of God" in the gospels and sayings attributed to Jesus in the controversial gospel of Thomas all point to an earlier tradition: like king David before him,...
by nightshadetwine
Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:39 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Hosea 6:1-2, 1 Corinthians 12, and their connection to Osiris and Dionysus
Replies: 4
Views: 6843

Re: Hosea 6:1-2, 1 Corinthians 12, and their connection to Osiris and Dionysus

Hos 6 is extremely interesting with the first person plural : "On the third day we will rise and live before him". Because this could support the notion that the resurrection of Jesus was a collective event, the birth of the Church, the new people of God, or the 'new Israel'. And the pass...
by nightshadetwine
Thu Nov 01, 2018 2:39 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Hosea 6:1-2, 1 Corinthians 12, and their connection to Osiris and Dionysus
Replies: 4
Views: 6843

Re: Hosea 6:1-2, 1 Corinthians 12, and their connection to Osiris and Dionysus

"Notice that in the passage Jesus deliberately waits two days before he starts out to visit Lazarus, thereby allowing a total of four days to pass before he comes to the tomb, a point that Martha specifically mentions. This is different, of course, from the timing of Jesus' resurrection, which...
by nightshadetwine
Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:25 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Hosea 6:1-2, 1 Corinthians 12, and their connection to Osiris and Dionysus
Replies: 4
Views: 6843

Hosea 6:1-2, 1 Corinthians 12, and their connection to Osiris and Dionysus

Hosea 6:1: Come, let us return to the LORD. For He has torn us to pieces, but He will heal us; He has wounded us, but He will bind us up. After two days He will revive us; on the third day He will raise us up, that we may live in His presence. I've mentioned before that this verse reminds me of the ...
by nightshadetwine
Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:34 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The story of Jesus is the story of the divine king in ANE religion.
Replies: 4
Views: 11928

Re: The story of Jesus is the story of the divine king in ANE religion.

The Pharaoh also went through a transfiguration and baptism during the coronation ceremony. "A Companion to Ancient Egypt" edited by Alan B. Lloyd: During this central ceremony of Kingship, a more or less ordinary mortal, whom many of the elite had known on a personal level, was transfigur...
by nightshadetwine
Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:35 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The story of Jesus is the story of the divine king in ANE religion.
Replies: 4
Views: 11928

Re: The story of Jesus is the story of the divine king in ANE religion.

This resurrection was the culmination of a process of deification that had begun with Amenhoteps III's coronation. This reminds me of the transfiguration and baptism of Jesus in the gospels. One or both of these events can be compared to the coronation ceremony of the king when he becomes divine or...
by nightshadetwine
Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:00 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The story of Jesus is the story of the divine king in ANE religion.
Replies: 4
Views: 11928

The story of Jesus is the story of the divine king in ANE religion.

In the ANE the king was often considered the son of god or the representative of god. In the following I'm going to use the Egyptian king/pharaoh as an example since I know more about Egyptian kings than other ANE kings. In the gospels Jesus is portrayed as being the new king/messiah. The Jewish mes...
by nightshadetwine
Fri Oct 26, 2018 12:03 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Mark 9:1 "seeing the kingdom having come in power"
Replies: 23
Views: 28513

Re: Mark 9:1 "seeing the kingdom having come in power"

What I hypothesise more generally is that the Christians of the NT thought their new race was more of a new species of humans. Or rather, that original immortal species described in Gen 1:26-26 ruling creation, before the Fall where the humans acquired their fleshly mortality and as such became a f...
by nightshadetwine
Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:30 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Fictional Jesus Synthesis
Replies: 116
Views: 122438

Re: Fictional Jesus Synthesis

Shouldn't we make a distinction between the doctrines about the resurrection body in A) the canonical Gospels, B) in Acts, and C) the Pauline letters (maybe even further distinguish between letters to churches and letters to individuals)? Some scholars like James Tabor think that Paul believed the ...
by nightshadetwine
Thu Oct 11, 2018 1:39 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Stoicism, Platonism, and the Jewishness of Early Christianity
Replies: 5
Views: 7568

Re: Stoicism, Platonism, and the Jewishness of Early Christianity

I would say Christianity was influenced by both. Some people were mixing Platonism and Stoicism before the Christian era. This website gives a good overview of Platonism and some of it's overlaps with Stoicism.
https://www.iep.utm.edu/midplato/