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- Sun Jan 05, 2014 12:02 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Blog series: Did Jesus Exi[s]t?
- Replies: 10
- Views: 12916
Re: Blog series: Did Jesus Exi[s]t?
Hi Peter, Yes, "A Martyred Man at Passover" sounds more like a fantastic plot device than an historical event.The description of the three or four trials of Jesus when tens of thousands of Jews and God-fearers are visiting Jerusalem and celebrating Passover each sounds absurd. The Jewish ...
- Sat Jan 04, 2014 9:27 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Blog series: Did Jesus Exi[s]t?
- Replies: 10
- Views: 12916
Re: Blog series: Did Jesus Exi[s]t?
He gives the idea that Jesus did not exist about 10% odds. I would hate to apply a number or percentage, I think that is a mistake in itself. I see no reason to discount a martyred man at Passover that generated legends and mythology in the Diaspora. Too date, there is no replacement that even come...
- Fri Jan 03, 2014 8:35 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: What Do Mythicists Want?
- Replies: 57
- Views: 56519
Re: What Do Mythicists Want?
What about James Tabor and the Jesus Dynasty? http://jesusdynasty.com/ Sure makes it look like Jesus and company was real, or in this case all too real for conventional Christianity. Tabor makes me puke he oversteps his knowledge and over attributes much worse then what I would call typical scholar...
- Fri Jan 03, 2014 8:34 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: If Jesus did not exist...
- Replies: 9
- Views: 10426
Re: If Jesus did not exist...
Look how long the concept of El has evolved and transformed. The only concept that surpasses it is the rainbow serpent legends of Australia. Too date, no one has proposed any sort of a decent replacement hypothesis for a martyred man at Passover that generated multicultural mythology that grew in He...
- Tue Dec 31, 2013 9:16 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Peter never in Rome - blockbuster by Zwierlein
- Replies: 10
- Views: 12527
Re: Peter never in Rome - blockbuster by Zwierlein
I have never viewed Peter as ever being in Rome.
To think a Galilean peasant would have ever taught in their enemies homeland is just not altogether sane.
There may have been a Peter who taught, but its much more likely some influencial figure was tagged with peters name due to his popularity.
To think a Galilean peasant would have ever taught in their enemies homeland is just not altogether sane.
There may have been a Peter who taught, but its much more likely some influencial figure was tagged with peters name due to his popularity.
- Sun Dec 29, 2013 11:32 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Moses as 'His Man' (Ishu = אישו) in Marcion and Marqe
- Replies: 28
- Views: 31603
Re: Moses as 'His Man' (Ishu = אישו) in Marcion and Marqe
The Christian race developed from 'spiritual adoption' from Jesus (= Ishu) is the fulfillment of that promise. . In some circles yes. Were talking about Hellenist perverting scripture that has been perverted in as many ways as imagination itself. Christianity developed from a perversion of Judaism ...
- Sun Dec 29, 2013 11:20 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Moses as 'His Man' (Ishu = אישו) in Marcion and Marqe
- Replies: 28
- Views: 31603
Re: Moses as 'His Man' (Ishu = אישו) in Marcion and Marqe
Your busy taking text that has been compiled over hundreds and hundreds of years and so fragmented from polytheism to monotheism. Reason and logic and not going to apply no matter how hard or detailed one breaks this down. You add the multi cultural nature of these early text and it adds even more c...
- Fri Dec 27, 2013 9:32 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Richard Carrier: Merry Christmas, God Is Still a Delusion
- Replies: 28
- Views: 27161
Re: Richard Carrier: Merry Christmas, God Is Still a Delusio
stephan happy huller wrote:I don't know why it is so difficult for people on both sides to say "maybe."
Because the evidence doesn't point that way.
I would love to be convince by a good replacement hypothesis, but too date, there is no good replacement hypothesis.
- Fri Dec 27, 2013 8:30 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: What Do Mythicists Want?
- Replies: 57
- Views: 56519
Re: What Do Mythicists Want?
Gospels are the products of communities/assemblies/congregations (all of which words became the word for "churches") of believers. Perhaps 20 congregations produced documents which may fit the literary form of gospels as conceived today. Where does this magical 20 come from? I will call t...
- Fri Dec 27, 2013 11:38 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Richard Carrier: Merry Christmas, God Is Still a Delusion
- Replies: 28
- Views: 27161
Re: Richard Carrier: Merry Christmas, God Is Still a Delusio
That's too bad he chose the mythicist case with that crucifixion in heaven Cordially, Bernard True. It is one of his many week points. Why have a crucifixion in heaven and then place it at a Passover where 400,000 people have the chance to witness it and say,,,,,, "I was there it never happene...