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by Bernard Muller
Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:01 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Gullotta and Hurtado versus Carrier: a 'dialogue' between deaf
Replies: 307
Views: 52696

Re: Gullotta and Hurtado versus Carrier: a 'dialogue' between deaf

Although I thank you for your sources, you have provided no reference to Jesus's having a human father. If it is said Jesus was a descendant of Israelites, Abraham, Jesse and David, that would certainly signify he had a human father. Descendance in the Jewish system is always from the male line. Se...
by Bernard Muller
Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:57 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Gullotta and Hurtado versus Carrier: a 'dialogue' between deaf
Replies: 307
Views: 52696

Re: Gullotta and Hurtado versus Carrier: a 'dialogue' between deaf

1. Where in Paul is a reference to Jesus's having a human father (aside from perhaps David, which led to the strange "David's heavenly sperm model" from Dr. Carrier). When eyewitnesses were still alive, Paul wrote about a minimal Jesus (but also, for Paul, pre/post-existent as a heavenly ...
by Bernard Muller
Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:58 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Gullotta and Hurtado versus Carrier: a 'dialogue' between deaf
Replies: 307
Views: 52696

Re: Gullotta and Hurtado versus Carrier: a 'dialogue' between deaf

Hurtado and Gullotta: the Philo's Logos is not an archangel Philo's logos is a heavenly being, altogether an archangel, the Son, the eldest Son, the firstborn. However Philo's made also allusions the Son is also a man. Hurtado and Gullotta: the Paul's Jesus is not an archangel At the time of Paul, ...
by Bernard Muller
Sun Nov 14, 2021 10:29 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Matthean Posteriority Hypothesis
Replies: 130
Views: 20060

Re: The Matthean Posteriority Hypothesis

"Matthew" did not know gLuke: Main argument: Mk8:15 "Take heed, beware of the leaven of the Pharisees..." in the missing block reappears in Lk12:1b "Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy." . Luke's version is very similar of what shows in GMatthew 1...
by Bernard Muller
Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:14 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Richard Carrier on the Book of Revelation
Replies: 44
Views: 8737

Re: Richard Carrier on the Book of Revelation

@ MrMacSon [or the passages in Matthew were developed based on those in Revelation or from some an earlier text] Mt 24:30 "... and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven ..." Rev1:7 "Behold, He is coming with clouds...
by Bernard Muller
Mon Nov 08, 2021 12:59 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Richard Carrier on the Book of Revelation
Replies: 44
Views: 8737

Re: Richard Carrier on the Book of Revelation

what do you think about the Book of Revelation ? Do you have a definite view about it? Definite view cannot replace thorough research backed by strong evidence. I also noted that the author of the Christian addition knew about gMatthew. Consider (from http://historical-jesus.info/rjohn.html ): It i...
by Bernard Muller
Mon Nov 08, 2021 12:28 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Richard Carrier on the Book of Revelation
Replies: 44
Views: 8737

Re: Richard Carrier on the Book of Revelation

@ RG No way. I'm 100% certain that Luke is derivative of Marcion. It's so obvious. Luke 1, 2 & 24 are distinctly different from the rest of the text. Marcion had good reasons not to include Luke 1 & 2: deny human origin of Jesus. As for Luke 24, Marcion included a big chunk of it in his gosp...
by Bernard Muller
Mon Nov 08, 2021 9:52 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Richard Carrier on the Book of Revelation
Replies: 44
Views: 8737

Re: Richard Carrier on the Book of Revelation

But the worst claim by Carrier was when he said that Marcion corrupted really Luke. I agree with Carrier on this: See: Dating of Luke's & John's gospels: a simplified study Dating of these two gospels can be estimated through series of clues inside the text. http://historical-jesus.info/62.html...
by Bernard Muller
Sun Nov 07, 2021 7:21 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Richard Carrier on the Book of Revelation
Replies: 44
Views: 8737

Re: Richard Carrier on the Book of Revelation

Hi, I am still alive. I have a webpage on Revelation, which goes much deeper than what Carrier wrote: http://historical-jesus.info/rjohn.html It has been mentioned that 'Revelation' is the result of Christian additions on a thoroughly Jewish text: - "the main [part of the] apocalypse [of John] ...
by Bernard Muller
Sat May 08, 2021 10:38 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Synopsis of Schweitzer's QHJ [Ch. 2, Reimarus]
Replies: 13
Views: 3301

Re: Synopsis of Schweitzer's QHJ [Ch. 2, Reimarus]

to Irish1975,

OK, but I thought some of the points you made (6, 8, 9) were coming from your own view.

Cordially, Bernard